Oh, absolutely. I cited him as the only boychild peer I could think of, although I'm still searching for one like Rory or Veronica who's actually not unhappy about it, and doesn't feel like their childhood was stolen.
I-I'm just taking things without paying for th... In what twisted dictionary is that stealing?
Willow ,'Showtime'
Natter 34: Freak With No Name
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 1:56:12 pm PST #2026 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
brenda m - Mar 31, 2005 1:56:36 pm PST #2027 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
The Salon kerfuffle has been interesting to watch, but "not publically humiliating your children" strikes me as good policy regardless of your profession, gender, or fame.
Yes, but... I guess I just don't get where the automatic assumption that honesty, even about difficult issues, equals deliberately humiliating your children. Sure, in some cases it might be. And things may get awkward here and there. (The suicide question and how it was/is being handled is a more complicated issue, and not one I feel able to address, except to say that I'm not disagreeing with Betsy.)
But so much of the commentary feels to me like "shut up and take it and keep a smile on your face while doing it - its for the children," that it's setting off a real squick for me. As though havjng a mental and emotional life, and having mental and emotional problems within that life, practically constitutes BadMothering in and of itself, and the only defensible way of dealing is to shove it deep down where no one will ever see.
Kristen - Mar 31, 2005 1:59:37 pm PST #2028 of 10001
What's a false tabloid?. Cause I don't understand at all.
HA! I've been going on about that all afternoon.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 2:00:40 pm PST #2029 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I just don't get where the automatic assumption that honesty, even about difficult issues, equals deliberately humiliating your children
How do you feel about it in this instance? I think, as a kid (pre-18 or so), I'd have been mortally embarassed at the level of detail, which is completely separate from the disquiet at learning that my mother has ranked her love in public, and I lose. She's posted elsewhere that she'd make one of her kids take a bullet to save her husband's life, and I can say that's the sort of public honesty I'd find mortifying for a host of reasons.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 2:01:24 pm PST #2030 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I love the PS...That's the best part, Kristen.
Kristen - Mar 31, 2005 2:05:37 pm PST #2031 of 10001
It is! And they'd be my favorite too if they paid me $2M for photos of my "faux" wedding.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 2:11:15 pm PST #2032 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
do you think she writes that shit herself?
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 2:12:28 pm PST #2033 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
do you think she writes that shit herself?
Dear god, I hope so.
Kat - Mar 31, 2005 2:13:36 pm PST #2034 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
ita, I think Waldman's kids should be as bitter about this:
Frankly, at this stage they are far more interested in Gaia online and Muffin Films Web sites, but there will surely come a day when they will Google themselves, find my blog and both be furious with me for having stolen their lives and humiliated at the extent to which I have laid open my own. I told the New York Times reporter that blogging was "payback for driving back and forth to gymnastics all week long," but I don't really believe that.
From [link]
I guess I'm less appalled by the CultOfMommydom being upset and more weirded out at what Betsy said. Too much info and not locked down enough.
§ ita § - Mar 31, 2005 2:16:08 pm PST #2035 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Dirty laundry, and not even hers. I find her PoV thought-provoking, but am not comfortable with the urgency with which she reveals what she admits are fleeting thoughts and half-truths to the world, including her kids. The only thing fleet about her thoughts once they hit the internet is the wildfire-way they spread. That shit will linger.