The whole earth may be sucked into Hell, and you want my help 'cause your girlfriend's a big ho?

Buffy ,'Chosen'


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JZ - Sep 03, 2005 8:56:02 am PDT #7130 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I haven't even seen the damn thing, but, going by everyone's descriptions of her coolness and ass-kickingness and general overall worthiness, I'd vote for her ending up with Alan Tudyk, just on general principle.


§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 8:59:12 am PDT #7131 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As far as I could tell, the princess got the guy because she was a Princess, pretty and rich. They played (like Raq said) the beginning like something was developing between the blacksmith and William -- it's not that I was rooting for her -- I sincerely thought that was what was going to happen.

So when the reins are yanked over into another direction, I'm left wondering "what did she do wrong?"

It's not that love is the ultimate reward and life is empty without it -- just that these chicks so rarely get the love, and it really looked like she was going to pull this time. Really was. Someone.


Cashmere - Sep 03, 2005 9:01:22 am PDT #7132 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Chaucer should end up with Wat.

Please tell me you're writing that slash as I type this.


P.M. Marc - Sep 03, 2005 9:07:12 am PDT #7133 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I only thought they were going to go with Kate as a love interest for a minute or two, because of how hard they were hammering home the change your stars bit. Kate wouldn't have been the star change that Jocelyn was, which is kind of annoying, but I don't think there was a way to do a love interest bit that wouldn't have been.

Please tell me you're writing that slash as I type this.

ETA, no, but if I find it, I'll share.


§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 9:13:01 am PDT #7134 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think there was a way to do a love interest bit that wouldn't have been.

Well, they could have made Jocelyn a cooler character than Kate, and then wham! It wouldn't look (to me) so much like William was putting the pussy on a pedestal (sorry, I just wanted to say that), and more like he was going for the cooler chick.

I know in real life it's not about who's cooler, but I swear some of the Jocelyn moments looked like they were designed to show what a bad choice she was. I mean, aren't we past the "if you love me do something unreasonable" moratoriums yet?


Jars - Sep 03, 2005 9:15:31 am PDT #7135 of 10002

It never even occured to me that Kate would end up with William. William had more chemistry with Chaucer than he did with her, I thought. I liked the fact that she was there for the same reason as the blokes, with the blokes, and yet was completely and totally not a bloke, which it would have been easy to make her.


§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 9:16:30 am PDT #7136 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ah. I felt she was not "completely and totally not a bloke," and hence my irritation.

Dammit, all this is making me want to watch it again. I liked it well enough, but damn!


Lee - Sep 03, 2005 9:20:00 am PDT #7137 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Dammit, all this is making me want to watch it again.

I just moved it to the top of my netflix queue. Maybe I can bring it with me to watch from your cuddle couch while we drink coffee.


P.M. Marc - Sep 03, 2005 9:31:19 am PDT #7138 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I mean, aren't we past the "if you love me do something unreasonable" moratoriums yet?

I'm trying to remember: was her request before or after his period of extreme dickish pouting?

If it was after, it doesn't seem as unreasonable to me, because yeah, go team beat the asshole, but don't take out your frustration on the girl because the asshole withdrew.


Volans - Sep 03, 2005 9:54:07 am PDT #7139 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I know in real life it's not about who's cooler

Well, it is when it's Twu Wuv. But when a jock is getting booty as booty for winning something jockly, yeah, it's pedestal-pussy.

I still think the moviemakers intended for it to be (Kate?) Blacksmith Girl, at least enough so that it really looked like it was going to go that way.

I forgot the other woman's name was Jocelyn. Now I need to run over to Literary and laugh about how the two main male character's in Kushiel's Dart were named Hyacinth and Jocelyn.