and don't like it when the cool non-gender-stereotype-conforming chick doesn't pull big.
But why is it important that she pulled big in terms of romance? Wasn't it enough that she was doing what she wanted, and doing it damned well?
Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.
Lorne ,'Why We Fight'
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Lee - Sep 03, 2005 8:25:53 am PDT #7120 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 8:31:00 am PDT #7121 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Because it's reinforced that that's not the kind of girl that gets the guy. I don't like the whole "well, she's an ass but so pretty and femme! give her the man-prize!"
There were two things up for grabs in this movie -- love and job satisfaction. IIRC, she came into it a good blacksmith and left a good blacksmith. How terribly boring.
Lee - Sep 03, 2005 8:35:18 am PDT #7122 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Okay, fair point, at least on the annoying femme getting the man.
I do think the blacksmith gained something over the course of the movie though in terms of being able to do things on her own terms and get people to admit she did them well.
§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 8:43:41 am PDT #7123 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Competence is great, but I think her reward was negligible, and worse yet -- she's desexed.
Lee - Sep 03, 2005 8:48:17 am PDT #7124 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I don't remember her as being desexed, just that she didn't happen to end up with William.
It has been a very long time since I've seen the movie though.
Volans - Sep 03, 2005 8:48:49 am PDT #7125 of 10002
move out and draw fire
I think she should've ended up with Chaucer.
Cashmere - Sep 03, 2005 8:49:38 am PDT #7126 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.
I have a feeling she ended up living in a mud hut with Mark Addy (and a few pigs).
Volans - Sep 03, 2005 8:50:53 am PDT #7127 of 10002
move out and draw fire
I wasn't really invested in who William ended up with, but the way the story was told hit all the formulaic notes for the song that ends with him and Blacksmith Girl together. Him and Princess Chick together wasn't the right resolving chord for those notes.
§ ita § - Sep 03, 2005 8:51:11 am PDT #7128 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not even that picky about who she ended up with ... just that it's irritating to see the out-of-the-box chicks who wander off alone into the sunset after everyone else has picked up the love and career prizes. And when some of the everyone elses are not good epitomes of the gender stereotype, it makes it worse.
It's a thing.
P.M. Marc - Sep 03, 2005 8:54:20 am PDT #7129 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think she should have ended up with the pretty maidservant of the pretty femme ass, though I got the impression she was going to wind up with Roland.
Chaucer should end up with Wat.