I only thought they were going to go with Kate as a love interest for a minute or two, because of how hard they were hammering home the change your stars bit. Kate wouldn't have been the star change that Jocelyn was, which is kind of annoying, but I don't think there was a way to do a love interest bit that wouldn't have been.

Please tell me you're writing that slash as I type this.

ETA, no, but if I find it, I'll share.

I don't think there was a way to do a love interest bit that wouldn't have been.

Well, they could have made Jocelyn a cooler character than Kate, and then wham! It wouldn't look (to me) so much like William was putting the pussy on a pedestal (sorry, I just wanted to say that), and more like he was going for the cooler chick.

I know in real life it's not about who's cooler, but I swear some of the Jocelyn moments looked like they were designed to show what a bad choice she was. I mean, aren't we past the "if you love me do something unreasonable" moratoriums yet?

It never even occured to me that Kate would end up with William. William had more chemistry with Chaucer than he did with her, I thought. I liked the fact that she was there for the same reason as the blokes, with the blokes, and yet was completely and totally not a bloke, which it would have been easy to make her.

Ah. I felt she was not "completely and totally not a bloke," and hence my irritation.

Dammit, all this is making me want to watch it again. I liked it well enough, but damn!

Dammit, all this is making me want to watch it again.

I just moved it to the top of my netflix queue. Maybe I can bring it with me to watch from your cuddle couch while we drink coffee.

I mean, aren't we past the "if you love me do something unreasonable" moratoriums yet?

I'm trying to remember: was her request before or after his period of extreme dickish pouting?

If it was after, it doesn't seem as unreasonable to me, because yeah, go team beat the asshole, but don't take out your frustration on the girl because the asshole withdrew.

I know in real life it's not about who's cooler

Well, it is when it's Twu Wuv. But when a jock is getting booty as booty for winning something jockly, yeah, it's pedestal-pussy.

I still think the moviemakers intended for it to be (Kate?) Blacksmith Girl, at least enough so that it really looked like it was going to go that way.

I forgot the other woman's name was Jocelyn. Now I need to run over to Literary and laugh about how the two main male character's in Kushiel's Dart were named Hyacinth and Jocelyn.

it is when it's Twu Wuv

I disagree. Otherwise it'd be reflected in all cool people getting the person of their choice, and the uncool being single and/or unhappily coupled.

It's just about chemistry.

PMM, I don't remember when it happened. What was his dicking pouting about, again? But asking him to lose to prove his love -- I don't care (so much) if he started it. That's still inexcusable childish behaviour that I hate to see rewarded.

Maybe I can bring it with me to watch from your cuddle couch while we drink coffee.

If I ever bring myself to forgive the slight ...

PMM, I don't remember when it happened. What was his dicking pouting about, again? But asking him to lose to prove his love -- I don't care (so much) if he started it. That's still inexcusable childish behaviour that I hate to see rewarded.

As I recall (I watched in a room full of people including a hyper 9 year old, and everyone was chattering a bit), she went to congratate him/flirt with him after the event where Rufus Sewell dropped out, and he ripped into her for being nothing but a dumb and pointless girl because damn it, it wasn't really winning.

So, if I'm remembering the timing right and not retconning it, she's asking him to prove that she's a higher priority than the game. Which, still childish, but then, so was he, which just goes back to my point about him being unworthy of Kate.

If I ever bring myself to forgive the slight ...

I hope you can, even though I know it will be hard, what with the not having you make me coffee when you were in a rush to get to krav and all.