Morpheus has the emotionally-crippled-and-needs-a-hug-and-a-bowl-of-soup thing down cold, but when I think "woobie," I think of someone who needs protecting from the harsh uncaring world, not from his own choices.
Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.
Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'
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Jessica - Jun 27, 2005 10:58:06 am PDT #4760 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Katie M - Jun 27, 2005 10:58:46 am PDT #4761 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Awww, c'mon. Not even a little bit? At least as much as Lex or Sawyer.
No. No woobieness for Aeryn! Aeryn does not need a cuddle! Aeryn needs to shoot things.
But you can feel bad for her womanly man-pain if you'd like.
Aims - Jun 27, 2005 10:59:17 am PDT #4762 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Can I be Aeryn's woobie? I need a cuddle form a hot chick that shoots things.
§ ita § - Jun 27, 2005 10:59:32 am PDT #4763 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think you can woobify a girl; it seems to be a term that applies to guys solely.
You just haven't read enough Batgirl, I swear. The poor dear has so much pain, but is so hard.
I can't imagine hugging Aeryn, or comforting her without immediate risk of life or limb, so I can't call her one.
Polter-Cow - Jun 27, 2005 11:00:00 am PDT #4764 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I don't think you can woobify a girl; it seems to be a term that applies to guys solely.
I mean, isn't the appeal of a woobie that traditionally, the male character is supposed to be all strong and powerful, and here is one that just needs a hug? Whereas the female character is traditionally weak, and the appeal is for her to be kickass? Fun with gender roles, it is.
You just haven't read enough Batgirl, I swear. The poor dear has so much pain, but is so hard.
Cass I can see as a female woobie, for sure. She is both kickass and damaged at once. Poor dear, indeed.
Katie M - Jun 27, 2005 11:00:44 am PDT #4765 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Can I be Aeryn's woobie? I need a cuddle form a hot chick that shoots things.
Well, I can't promise she'll quite get the concept, but you can certainly try...
askye - Jun 27, 2005 11:00:50 am PDT #4766 of 10002
Thrive to spite them
I have no desire at all to hug Spike, squeeze him, or Call him George. The Spike in my mind would rip my throat out if I tried. I hate what he turned into.
I've long since stopped caring about Smallville so I don't care about Lex.
Sawyer....little kid Sawyer yes, adult Sawyer. No.
Wes...nope.
Calli - Jun 27, 2005 11:00:56 am PDT #4767 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Aeryn does not need a cuddle! Aeryn needs to shoot things.
See, I always figured she could use a bit of both.
Mr. Broom - Jun 27, 2005 11:01:09 am PDT #4768 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
If you are, you're in good company. I also think Destruction is woobie-esque, as is Delirium. I could be over-woobiefying, though. Or perhaps The Endless lend themselves to woobieness.If Delirium is not a woobie, no one is. Toward the end of Brief Lives when she gives her speech to Morpheus... you want nothing so bad as to hug her poor, damaged self.
DebetEsse - Jun 27, 2005 11:01:25 am PDT #4769 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I define woobie a little differently from that definition (though in line with the, I think, implied definitions of most of the examples)
Character you want to wrap up in a blanket, take home, and feed soup to. Possibly followed by having lots of sex. The character badly needing a hug is a big part of it.
I can totally see Morpheus. Not crazy. (omgJustReadSandmanVol1!IAmGaiman'sBitch)
I think Aeryn, but she would be far too likely to kick the crap out of anyone who tried.