Yes, there is. There's a hurry, Xander. I'm dying...I may have as few as fifty years left.

Anya ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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Mr. Broom - Jun 27, 2005 11:01:09 am PDT #4768 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

If you are, you're in good company. I also think Destruction is woobie-esque, as is Delirium. I could be over-woobiefying, though. Or perhaps The Endless lend themselves to woobieness.
If Delirium is not a woobie, no one is. Toward the end of Brief Lives when she gives her speech to Morpheus... you want nothing so bad as to hug her poor, damaged self.


DebetEsse - Jun 27, 2005 11:01:25 am PDT #4769 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I define woobie a little differently from that definition (though in line with the, I think, implied definitions of most of the examples)

Character you want to wrap up in a blanket, take home, and feed soup to. Possibly followed by having lots of sex. The character badly needing a hug is a big part of it.

I can totally see Morpheus. Not crazy. (omgJustReadSandmanVol1!IAmGaiman'sBitch)

I think Aeryn, but she would be far too likely to kick the crap out of anyone who tried.


Katie M - Jun 27, 2005 11:01:38 am PDT #4770 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

See, I always figured she could use a bit of both.

Well, maybe if you interpret "cuddle" as "athletic sex."


Polter-Cow - Jun 27, 2005 11:03:06 am PDT #4771 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think a woobie does need to be both kickass and damaged. It's the conflicted nature that sells it. The fact that they need a hug so badly but would never deign to ask for one.


Atropa - Jun 27, 2005 11:03:10 am PDT #4772 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I also think Destruction is woobie-esque, as is Delirium. I could be over-woobiefying, though. Or perhaps The Endless lend themselves to woobieness.

Hmmm. I don't get a sense of woobieness from Destruction or Delirium. Del has Barnabas to keep an eye on her, and Destruction ... I just don't see him needing a hug, a blanky, and some hot soup. Or someone petting his head.

Morpheus has the emotionally-crippled-and-needs-a-hug-and-a-bowl-of-soup thing down cold, but when I think "woobie," I think of someone who needs protecting from the harsh uncaring world, not from his own choices.

But he makes those choices 'cos he doesn't quite understand the world around him, poor baby.

I sense another round of re-reading Sandman in my future. Oh darn.


Calli - Jun 27, 2005 11:04:01 am PDT #4773 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, maybe if you interpret "cuddle" as "athletic sex."

I'm good with that. The "[Male Character X] is a woobie that needs teh healing sex" subculture could use a female version.


Polter-Cow - Jun 27, 2005 11:04:12 am PDT #4774 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hey, Broomy, you should buy me all of Sandman for my birthday. I'm just saying.


Gris - Jun 27, 2005 11:04:50 am PDT #4775 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Maybe it's a term that can only apply to people that try to give off an image of strong or scary, but don't back it up and make you want to hug them anyway.

Batgirl could fit that, I'd imagine. So could Aeryn, perhaps (haven't watched, am speculating, don't shoot me.) Buffy, even, perhaps, only I don't think she generally does, or Willow-trying-to-kill-Glory, maybe. Maybe it happens in Dark Angel at some point, if they ever develop characters beyond hot boy and hot girl. Might could happen with Rebecca in The Inside, too. I think Clarice Starling has it a bit.


Scrappy - Jun 27, 2005 11:04:59 am PDT #4776 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Faith?


Jesse - Jun 27, 2005 11:05:51 am PDT #4777 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

CRYING CHRISTIAN TROY.