It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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juliana - Jun 01, 2005 10:25:02 am PDT #3607 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Matt Damon's fate in that movie did disturb me a bit.

Poor Loki.

I love that movie. Every bit of it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 01, 2005 10:26:09 am PDT #3608 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

However, Matt Damon's fate in that movie did disturb me a bit.

Funny, getting killed by Affleck after publicly talking about his repressed sexual issues to strangers is exactly how I've always pictured Damon buying the farm.


Jessica - Jun 01, 2005 10:26:22 am PDT #3609 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Nah, because JSBSB wasn't pretending to be anything but a random-ass collection of references to other Kevin Smith movies with a healthy portion of making fun of Ben Affleck thrown in. It's funny as hell, but I've never seen anyone try to argue that it's a good movie.

(And even if there were no other funny scenes in the whole thing, the "Hunting Season" bit alone would have been worth the price of admission.)


juliana - Jun 01, 2005 10:27:04 am PDT #3610 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

(And even if there were no other funny scenes in the whole thing, the "Hunting Season" bit alone would have been worth the price of admission.)

Lemon! Lion! Lemon!


JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2005 10:30:23 am PDT #3611 of 10002
I can't even.

Right after I saw Dogma, I got into a long discussion at a bar with a woman who thought it was blasphemous and evil. She hadn't seen it. Somehow, that translates into points for Kevin Smith.

I love the bit in An Evening with Kevin Smith where he talks about going down to the local multiplex to join the protest of his own movie. And how his sign ("Dogma is Dogshit") was nicer than everyone else's because he used sparkles on his.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2005 10:38:25 am PDT #3612 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think you lose points for accepting the role of God, no matter how crappy the movie.

Even God can't like Jim Carrey. It's not possible.


Kathy A - Jun 01, 2005 10:43:11 am PDT #3613 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Even Whoopi scored some points with me by playing God in that Very Merry Muppet Christmas Special from a few years ago. Of course, David Arquette scored more by not being obnoxious and playing very well with Kermit.


Sean K - Jun 01, 2005 10:47:32 am PDT #3614 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I totally get it, Sean. "If you're living in the same Universe I am, that there is the only viable characterization of a loving God I've ever seen."

This. I thought it was an utterly convincing portrayal of a God I can believe in.

But to each their own.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 01, 2005 11:18:12 am PDT #3615 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It occurs to me that Bryan Fuller's version of God would terrify me if I believed in it.


Steph L. - Jun 01, 2005 11:37:07 am PDT #3616 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I am oddly defensive about Dogma and her appearance as God in it. I get weepy at that movie, and that scene in particular.

(It's the standing on her head, smelling the flowers, and the nose tweak that get me)

I'm with you, Sean. It's the only version of God I can plausibly accept -- a God who ENJOYS her creation (and skeeball!), who lets the people she created fuck up big time, and who gets sad when they fuck up so badly.

Brilliant movie. Totally brilliant.