I think Dogma is the hardest movie I've ever had to admit to being underwhelmed by. It makes me feel like a traitor to my people. (My people, in this instance, being irreverent Kevin Smith fans. But I just didn't think it was that good.)
A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.
Anya ,'Dirty Girls'
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Jessica - Jun 01, 2005 10:19:20 am PDT #3603 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
DebetEsse - Jun 01, 2005 10:21:02 am PDT #3604 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I totally get it, Sean. "If you're living in the same Universe I am, that there is the only viable characterization of a loving God I've ever seen."
eta: I understand that YDietyMV, and, given my theology, that's probably a good thing for society.
-t - Jun 01, 2005 10:21:34 am PDT #3605 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Right after I saw Dogma, I got into a long discussion at a bar with a woman who thought it was blasphemous and evil. She hadn't seen it. Somehow, that translates into points for Kevin Smith.
I like Alanis as God. It works for me.
Mr. Broom - Jun 01, 2005 10:21:54 am PDT #3606 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
I think Dogma is the hardest movie I've ever had to admit to being underwhelmed by. It makes me feel like a traitor to my people. (My people, in this instance, being irreverent Kevin Smith fans. But I just didn't think it was that good.)
You didn't feel that way about "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back"? I walked away from that one half an hour in. It felt like an awful fanfilm that someone somehow managed to get the View Askew regulars to star in.
juliana - Jun 01, 2005 10:25:02 am PDT #3607 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Matt Damon's fate in that movie did disturb me a bit.
Poor Loki.
I love that movie. Every bit of it.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 01, 2005 10:26:09 am PDT #3608 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
However, Matt Damon's fate in that movie did disturb me a bit.
Funny, getting killed by Affleck after publicly talking about his repressed sexual issues to strangers is exactly how I've always pictured Damon buying the farm.
Jessica - Jun 01, 2005 10:26:22 am PDT #3609 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Nah, because JSBSB wasn't pretending to be anything but a random-ass collection of references to other Kevin Smith movies with a healthy portion of making fun of Ben Affleck thrown in. It's funny as hell, but I've never seen anyone try to argue that it's a good movie.
(And even if there were no other funny scenes in the whole thing, the "Hunting Season" bit alone would have been worth the price of admission.)
juliana - Jun 01, 2005 10:27:04 am PDT #3610 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
(And even if there were no other funny scenes in the whole thing, the "Hunting Season" bit alone would have been worth the price of admission.)
Lemon! Lion! Lemon!
JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2005 10:30:23 am PDT #3611 of 10002
I can't even.
Right after I saw Dogma, I got into a long discussion at a bar with a woman who thought it was blasphemous and evil. She hadn't seen it. Somehow, that translates into points for Kevin Smith.
I love the bit in An Evening with Kevin Smith where he talks about going down to the local multiplex to join the protest of his own movie. And how his sign ("Dogma is Dogshit") was nicer than everyone else's because he used sparkles on his.
§ ita § - Jun 01, 2005 10:38:25 am PDT #3612 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think you lose points for accepting the role of God, no matter how crappy the movie.
Even God can't like Jim Carrey. It's not possible.