You mean it's not homoerotic camp?
Far be it from me to deem all homoerotic camp as the same.
While it may also be homoerotic and camp, I don't think it is in vaguely similar ways.
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§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:19:12 am PST #255 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Sean K - Mar 18, 2005 7:25:19 am PST #256 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
And Joel Schumaker quickly regressed.
And Chris Nolan may wind up rescuing the franchise and elevating it to a whole new level.
I have my hopes.
JohnSweden - Mar 18, 2005 7:28:38 am PST #257 of 10002
I can't even.
I have my hopes.
It's so cute how not-jaded you are, despite living in the belly of the beast.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:29:13 am PST #258 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Well, at the very least, it doesn't look campily homoerotic.
Jesse - Mar 18, 2005 7:35:21 am PST #259 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
The thing about WW having to be white -- is Bullseye not a "known" enough character for it to matter? What about the current Ving Rhames Kojak thing? I'm not saying it's likely, but I don't think it's impossible. Of course, a non-white WW still wouldn't lead to Gina Torres getting the part.
Sean K - Mar 18, 2005 7:35:37 am PST #260 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Well, at the very least, it doesn't look campily homoerotic.
Though I can see the potential for Liam Neeson and Christian Bale to bring a sort of master/student homoerotic pain to it.
I would be okay with that.
Just no Bat Shark Repellant.
Steph L. - Mar 18, 2005 7:36:27 am PST #261 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
Though I can see the potential for Liam Neeson and Christian Bale to bring a sort of master/student homoerotic pain to it.
Oh.
GUH.
Broken now.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 18, 2005 7:38:23 am PST #262 of 10002
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Why couldn't they have waited to get rid of the campy homoeroticism until a few movies after Christian Bale joined the franchise?
Steph L. - Mar 18, 2005 7:39:26 am PST #263 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I'm still in a Liam Neeson/Christian Bale place. Because Liam Neeson/Peter Sarsgaard in Kinsey = HOTTTTT.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2005 7:40:56 am PST #264 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
is Bullseye not a "known" enough character for it to matter?
Not Bullseye -- Kingpin. And probably not, although I did hear people bitch about the PCness (of casting a black guy as a criminal -- so right).
Matt, do you need it to be campy? Can't it just be fraught?