I liked Sin City, and, surprisingly, my 76-year-old never-heard-her-swear mom liked it too. She found the Noir/crime homage lots of fun, and said the adolescent viewpoint reminded her of comics she and my uncle read voraciously as kids, so it worked for her. My feeling was basically, Clive Owen, rowr.

and said the adolescent viewpoint reminded her of comics she and my uncle read voraciously as kids, so it worked for her.

Heh! She must've been reading those hardcore EC comics in the 50s.

My feeling was basically, Clive Owen, rowr.

::sets watch to Scrappy's Clive-oost::

The comics themselves are a fascinating stylistic mix of Alex Toth's fantastic high contrast black and white work, coupled with the blocky dynamic, brutal power of Jack Kirby.

I need to answer some of Nutty's noir commentary, but need to go re-read it first. However, I strongly concur with Vonnie's assessment that it had more in common with Sam Fuller's brutalism. In fact, many Noir films specifically critique violent male revenge. In White Heat Glen Ford goes after the mob after they murder his wife and kid. In doing so, he winds up also destroying every woman who helps him in the movie. In Touch of Evil, Charlton Heston's righteous violent anger, winds up leaving his wife alone and vulnerable and subsequently kidnapped, raped and drugged up. In Noir you can't solve your problems by being a hardass. It just makes other problems more profound.

The comics themselves are a fascinating stylistic mix of Alex Toth's fantastic high contrast black and white work, coupled with the blocky dynamic, brutal power of Jack Kirby.

You need to give Chester Gould more credit. Actually, Gould was a major stylistic influence on Noir in general.

You need to give Chester Gould more credit. Actually, Gould was a major stylistic influence on Noir in general.

I love Chester Gould, and yeah, it's in the grotesquery. But Toth is the absolute master of the b/w composition that Miller does. And those beat up male faces? Orion taking off his helmet in New Gods, and all those other raw, howling beasties Kirby drew.

Sin City thanked my BF's uncle, Joe Kubert, in the end credits. He has an email in to the uncle to find out why. Joe is a comics artist from way back, so we think that's the reason. Still, very unexpected and cool.

My feeling was basically, Clive Owen, rowr.

Oh, absolutely. My sister turned to me after it was over and said, "I want Clive Owen to kill lots of people for me."

Mainly, I just wish all the actors had been given more direction. The Quentin Tarantino "guest directed" scene was instantly recognizable because the acting suddenly came to life, and the visuals were really used instead of the only goal being to make it look like the comics.

Mainly, I just wish all the actors had been given more direction.

Yeah, I got the sense that the actors were a little neglected in the process. Some of them got it stylistically, but others seemed to be acting in different movies.

Kirby Gangsters

Alex Toth - the master of black ink

Sin City thanked my BF's uncle, Joe Kubert, in the end credits. He has an email in to the uncle to find out why. Joe is a comics artist from way back, so we think that's the reason. Still, very unexpected and cool.

Joe Kubert is probably my alltime favorite comic, artist, Robin. Just a magnificent style, beautifully rendered and incredibly alive and dynamic. His Tarzan is definitive for me. Also a huge fan of his Enemy Ace stories.

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The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy movie is bad. Really bad. You just won't believe how vastly, staggeringly, jaw-droppingly bad it is. I mean, you might think that The Phantom Menace was a hopelessly misguided attempt to reinvent a much-loved franchise by people who, though well-intentioned, completely failed to understand what made the original popular - but that's just peanuts to the Hitchhiker's movie.