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You need to give Chester Gould more credit. Actually, Gould was a major stylistic influence on Noir in general.
I love Chester Gould, and yeah, it's in the grotesquery. But Toth is the absolute master of the b/w composition that Miller does. And those beat up male faces? Orion taking off his helmet in New Gods, and all those other raw, howling beasties Kirby drew.
Sin City thanked my BF's uncle, Joe Kubert, in the end credits. He has an email in to the uncle to find out why. Joe is a comics artist from way back, so we think that's the reason. Still, very unexpected and cool.
My feeling was basically, Clive Owen, rowr.
Oh, absolutely. My sister turned to me after it was over and said, "I want Clive Owen to kill lots of people for me."
Mainly, I just wish all the actors had been given more direction. The Quentin Tarantino "guest directed" scene was instantly recognizable because the acting suddenly came to life, and the visuals were really used instead of the only goal being to make it look like the comics.
Mainly, I just wish all the actors had been given more direction.
Yeah, I got the sense that the actors were a little neglected in the process. Some of them got it stylistically, but others seemed to be acting in different movies.
Sin City thanked my BF's uncle, Joe Kubert, in the end credits. He has an email in to the uncle to find out why. Joe is a comics artist from way back, so we think that's the reason. Still, very unexpected and cool.
Joe Kubert is probably my alltime favorite comic, artist, Robin. Just a magnificent style, beautifully rendered and incredibly alive and dynamic. His Tarzan is definitive for me. Also a huge fan of his Enemy Ace stories.
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy movie is bad. Really bad. You just won't believe how vastly, staggeringly, jaw-droppingly bad it is. I mean, you might think that The Phantom Menace was a hopelessly misguided attempt to reinvent a much-loved franchise by people who, though well-intentioned, completely failed to understand what made the original popular - but that's just peanuts to the Hitchhiker's movie.
Wow. That's really bad.
Joe is a comics artist from way back, so we think that's the reason.
Another Kubert fan here. He's a great artist.
However, I strongly concur with Vonnie's assessment that it had more in common with Sam Fuller's brutalism.
I'll buy that. Although classic noir and brutalism both come out of a pulpy, tabloid universe, their directions and conclusions are pretty different. I'm very much of the opinion that noir works best in a world of social stricture -- things that can't be talked about in polite company, a strict division between polite company and impolite company -- whereas brutalism posits the idea that there is no such thing as polite company.
mmmJack Kirbymmm!