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P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2012 9:59:57 am PDT #9496 of 10458

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

To be fair, I think season 4 did a halfway decent patch job by making her the Manchurian Candidate and retconning all her sparkly nobility as manifestations of Jasmine's influence. What didn't work as a "redemptive" character arc was passable as omens that someone was being taken over by a Lovecraftean horror whose M.O. is killing with kindness. But Fury gave us a great swan song with the real Cordelia back one last time.

Totally.

I still don't get the Cordy Stans, but a lot of the Young Kids These Days coming into the show seem to thing CC got screwed over by Evil JWeeWee.

I bite my tongue. A lot.

Steph L. - Jul 25, 2012 10:03:45 am PDT #9497 of 10458

Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

What is the etymology of "stan"? I recognize the word contextually, and I feel like I maybe knew it once, but I am drawing a blank.

§ ita § - Jul 25, 2012 10:07:55 am PDT #9498 of 10458

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eminem song about a crazy fan.

Steph L. - Jul 25, 2012 10:36:43 am PDT #9499 of 10458

Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Actually, I don't think I ever knew that. My Eminem knowledge is small. (I was going to say "slim," but I have enough Eminem knowledge to recognize the pun therein.)

P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2012 10:43:12 am PDT #9500 of 10458

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's the one with the Dido track on it.

§ ita § - Jul 25, 2012 10:47:43 am PDT #9501 of 10458

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's one of the ones I like (I'm not not a fan). He's not wearing his dick hat during it (did anyone click on that link in Natter?), but he isn't shirking the R rating, since Stan goes postal and kills his pregnant girlfriend before taking his own life, theoretically because he doesn't get the response from the object of his fannishness that he feels he deserves.

Polter-Cow - Jul 25, 2012 10:51:05 am PDT #9502 of 10458

What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I still don't get the Cordy Stans, but a lot of the Young Kids These Days coming into the show seem to thing CC got screwed over by Evil JWeeWee.

So the rumors that Joss was pissed at Charisma for not telling him she was pregnant and made her evil and killed her or whatever the story is are...a distortion of the truth?

askye - Jul 25, 2012 11:17:00 am PDT #9503 of 10458

Thrive to spite them

I thought there were issues with CC using drugs and also doing things like cutting her hair and getting tattoos without telling anyone that caused continuity issues and showing up late/not knowing lines, stuff like that.

§ ita § - Jul 25, 2012 11:48:40 am PDT #9504 of 10458

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"She makes Denise Richards look like Dame Denise."--random member of the Angel crew.

She was not basking in the love and respect of her co-workers, let's just say.

Polter-Cow - Jul 25, 2012 12:24:47 pm PDT #9505 of 10458

What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, I think I remember reading something a while ago about how she had to go to rehab, which is why season four was largely improvised. The Vengeful Joss Story was new to me.

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