They so should have had the first appear to him as Jesse. Or Buffy
wrod, since it was about a year too early for it to be Cordelia.
Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.
Wash ,'Bushwhacked'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Frankenbuddha - May 19, 2005 7:15:01 am PDT #896 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 7:16:12 am PDT #897 of 10458
brillig
I was so praying for First!Buffy to wander around and sow confusion.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2005 7:18:27 am PDT #898 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I still seethe at the waste of not having the First appear as Buffy to any of the Scoobies until it did so just to taunt her at the very end. It only used that extremely effective tactic on Spike.
Then again, I really wanted a reveal that that wasn't actually Angel in the last 2 episodes. Can you imagine the look on Buffy's face if she'd run to hug him and then passed right through?
Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 7:33:23 am PDT #899 of 10458
brillig
I really wanted a reveal that that wasn't actually Angel in the last 2 episodes.
Stupid studio conflicts, it should have been Angelus tormenting Spike, not Dru. That would have been sweet.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2005 7:37:28 am PDT #900 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I don't know, I think Drusilla is the more important figure of the two to Spike. Angelus definitely should have been in that morphing sequence in "Lessons." Though if we go by best villains of a season rather than most dominant in the arc, it should have been a Gentleman rather than Adam for Season 4 as well. Which would have put a crimp in the First's season premiere monologue.
Gris - May 19, 2005 12:40:13 pm PDT #901 of 10458
Hey. New board.
Huh. If Perkins doesn't object to me stealing her discussion format, I'd really like to see what people think about this:
Who was most important to/for Willow: Tara, Oz, or Xander?
Kathy A - May 19, 2005 12:45:42 pm PDT #902 of 10458
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
I'd have to say Oz because he was the one who made her aware that she could be more than just the smart wallflower who's Xander's best friend. He was first attracted to her in all her geekiness (Eskimo Girl!), and loved her throughout her blossoming into the young woman who could make Xander finally notice her and draw the attention and admiration of Tara.
Lee - May 19, 2005 12:55:34 pm PDT #903 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
If Perkins doesn't object to me stealing her discussion format, I'd really like to see what people think about this:
I AM SO TOTALLY OFFENDED.
Okay, really, I'm not at all.
I was going to ask who was more important to/for Willow, Buffy or Xander.
Gris - May 19, 2005 1:02:10 pm PDT #904 of 10458
Hey. New board.
I'm thinking Xander on the last. At least for the "to" part. Buffy could never have brought her out of her darkness, she needed the best-friend-since-five for that. As for "for," well, Buffy's existence as the Slayer is what exposed her to the occult and that led to the whole magic thing and her getting to help save the world on multiple occasions. Not to mention giving her the chance to meet Tara. So maybe Buffy wins that part.
DavidS - May 19, 2005 1:35:27 pm PDT #905 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I think Oz for the reasons cited (and they're my OTP). He's the one that fostered her growth and self-confidence. He's the one who early on raised doubts about how she was using magic. The relationship with Tara was much more mature and invaluable to her growth as a witch, but it was also much more unhealthy.