I do enjoy that the Xander Lie keeps coming up. It's proof that it's dramatically real, you know? That it's not something everybody comes down on the same side about, that it's legitimately gray. I dig that.
Me too. It's the same reason I love the fight in the library among the scoobs where each of their motives/experiences is on full view and you understand all of them, and they're in complete tension.
Which is to say, Xander has many faults, but also many strengths; saying, "Kick his ass" was a failure to relate possibly-important data, but it was a prime example of Xander being supportive in a way he knows how to do. Frightened guy with a rock, blurty, occasionally cruel, avoidant, but also, all the cavalry available, and kind, and helpful, and once in a blue moon, wise. He is human.
Nutty speaks my mind again.
The cavalry's here! The cavalry's a frightened guy with a rock, but he's here!
I miss Xander. I figured that Joss wouldn't end the series without killing someone, and I was afraid it would be him. I was rather relieved to see Xander standing in the last scene.
I secretly hoped he would guest star in one of the last Angel episodes and Illyria would fall for him.
I figured that Joss wouldn't end the series without killing someone, and I was afraid it would be him. I was rather relieved to see Xander standing in the last scene.
me too.
I secretly hoped he would guest star in one of the last Angel episodes and Illyria would fall for him.
and then Angel would get all jealous, and they would have a big fight and end up in a nest of hot man lovin"
I think Angel would have been amused by the prospect and not bothered to warn Xander about it.
The conflict with Wesley would have been something to watch, though. And can you imagine the dialogue?
"It vexes me that I am oddly drawn to this mayfly-lived creature, rather than feeling the same intensity of disgust that I possess for the rest of you pathetic worms.
Fortuitous timing--I'm reading a review of the S2 DVDs, and saw this:
Willow entrusts Xander with the task of relaying this message to Buffy. Let’s just say, some of us are still waiting for its delivery. Xander had one moment to be a person, to keep a promise to his best friend and potentially save the life of Buffy’s love. He fails on every count. Did I mention, he’s not a morally-challenged vampire?
Not that I agree with the sentiment. I agree with Nutty and Hec.
FWIW, I totally agree with the reviewer. Xander done wrong. Doesn't mean he's evil, but humans do wrong. You admit it, you ask forgiveness and you promise to never do it again. And that is where Xander failed, in my eye. He never owned up.
He never owned up.
Yeah, I don't know. They really glossed over Giles' betrayal in "Helpless" by having him re-earn Buffy's respect off-screen during "The Zeppo."
Giles' almost got Buffy and her Mom killed by his direct actions. I don't see Xander's Lie as being nearly as bad or unambiguous. It was a grey area act of omission. Giles and Willow committed much worse betrayals as acts of comission, but fans wear their Favorite Goggles and that's how they view the show.
You're right, Hec. But right now, we're talking Xander and Willow and I think Xander has offended against Buffy more than Willow. Giles we'll save for another time. I gots beef with Giles. Specially season 7.
