Xander: Am I right, Giles? Giles: I'm almost certain you're not. Though, to be fair, I haven't been listening.

'Sleeper'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Atropa - Jan 19, 2012 10:46:19 am PST #8413 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oooh, I may need to get that the next time I place an order with Villaness. Their products are wonderful.


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2012 11:05:23 am PST #8414 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Jilli, you were primarily who I thought of when I saw that.

I've had such bad luck with BPAL's scents all turning to Play-Doh on me, I'm reluctant to try Villaness's perfume oils, although there are several scents I would like to try. Although the Play-Doh might be unique to BPAL, since I mix my own lavender/sandalwood oil mix, and I can wear it all day and it never turns to Play-Doh.

(I actually LOVE the way Play-Doh smells, but not ON me. Something that smells like grass is supposed to STAY that way, not turn to Play-Doh.)


Atropa - Jan 19, 2012 11:11:09 am PST #8415 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I haven't tried any of Villainess' perfume oils, but their soaps and scrubs are delicious. (And the owner told me that I partially inspired the Bloodsugar soap, which is blood orange and cotton candy.)


Connie Neil - Jan 19, 2012 11:19:49 am PST #8416 of 10459
brillig

re: Mark Watches--does it make me a bad human being to get tired of people being horrified and heartbroken that the show doesn't address all the social ills they personally abhor and it's just the most awful thing ever?


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2012 11:24:23 am PST #8417 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

does it make me a bad human being to get tired of people being horrified and heartbroken that the show doesn't address all the social ills they personally abhor and it's just the most awful thing ever?

Around the time I left the freak-ass church, the plotline on Friends was Rachel being pregnant. And the girls in the FAC loved to watch Friends, but were appalled -- pearl-clutchingly so -- that Rachel wouldn't get married since she was pregnant, and the show would be SO much better if she got married!

And I was like, It's *fiction,* not a damn sermon! The plot serves the story, not an agenda, WTF?!?

Which is basically how I feel about BTVS not being a pro-Romani bandwagon. Don't give a crap. It's fiction. Shoehorning in A Message makes for really, really crappy fiction.


billytea - Jan 19, 2012 11:26:42 am PST #8418 of 10459
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And I was like, It's *fiction,* not a damn sermon! The plot serves the story, not an agenda, WTF?!?

Can you believe you're not still a member, Steph?


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2012 11:30:08 am PST #8419 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Can you believe youre not still a member, Steph?

Heh. All this unmarried sex and reading novels is really ruining me.


DavidS - Jan 19, 2012 11:30:18 am PST #8420 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I just don't get all the judgmental grievance about Buffy and Willow slut-shaming Cordelia (by calling her a skanky ho).

I don't endorse slut-shaming, but let the characters be imperfect. They've got many reasons to be angry and resentful towards Cordy. They were trying to say something hurtful.

And Xander keeps getting dragged over the coals for being a teenage horndog. The show does not endorse his pathetic attempts to exert control over who Buffy is seeing or when. Nor Willow. He's a complex character with a mix of strengths and weaknesses and that's what makes the story go round.


Zenkitty - Jan 19, 2012 11:31:52 am PST #8421 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

re: Mark Watches--does it make me a bad human being to get tired of people being horrified and heartbroken that the show doesn't address all the social ills they personally abhor and it's just the most awful thing ever?

If so, we are both bad humans. I was just conversing with a buddy about how annoyed we are by people who seem to be constantly looking for things to be outraged about.


erikaj - Jan 19, 2012 11:35:39 am PST #8422 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

I agree, Tep, although I thought that storyline, being the millionth iteration of Ross/Rachel, kinda sucked too.(on rewatch, I've kinda stopped 'shipping them...what happened to Emily seems kind of awful, now that I'm this age.) But I wouldn't have mentioned it to my pastor, if I had one. And, oh, shit, wait till poor Mark gets to the Key and Tara's brain...and they use the c-word quite a lot. Well, *Mark's* c-word. Not the Anglo-Saxon one.