And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


askye - Jan 12, 2012 12:41:49 pm PST #8293 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

I really haven't read the books, I honestly tried and gave up after the first few pages.

The article I found was kinda old (by Entertainment Weekly) and Meyer may have read stuff or done more research than she's letting on.

I know there are werewolves that go up against the vampires and I'm not sure how far off from werewolf lore she is.

I thought the sparkly vampire stuff Meyer made up because she needed a reason for them not to go out in sunlight (rather than going with - sunlight allergy or the sunlight burns because they are soulless and evil).


brenda m - Jan 12, 2012 12:41:57 pm PST #8294 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Those folks at the Vampire Vatican didn't seem all that nice.


askye - Jan 12, 2012 12:46:42 pm PST #8295 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

According to the interview the not nice vampires have a reason to be not nice.

Meyer confuses me.

Wait, there's a Vampire Vatican?


Cass - Jan 12, 2012 1:01:27 pm PST #8296 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

That too, but I feel like a line like "Say 'uncle.' Oh, that's right, you killed my uncle" implies that there's a component of vengeance in there as well. Perhaps a small one. I mean, I don't think she's super beaten up about it because she's no longer the woman she was, but I think there's some of it in there.

I sometimes remind my brother he broke my jaw when we were kids. It was an accident, they happen. Doesn't bug me but it is instaguilt for him. He still feels guilt. I just sometimes feel the weather.

The author of Twilight claims she knew nothing about vampire lore.

Clearly.


Jon B. - Jan 12, 2012 1:49:07 pm PST #8297 of 10459
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It’s not something the writers could have done, but it seemed like a conscious choice to include that in the script.

I'ma guess he meant to say unconscious.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2012 2:15:49 pm PST #8298 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's what I wonder, but I still don't know what is preventing them from doing it consciously. Why isn't it something they could have done...and then did,


brenda m - Jan 12, 2012 2:23:06 pm PST #8299 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If not the writers, then who?


Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2012 2:29:35 pm PST #8300 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Isn't that sort of what writers DO?


Atropa - Jan 12, 2012 4:17:17 pm PST #8301 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And she hadn't read Dracula - in the interview I read she said she doesn't read vampire books because if they are too close to hers then that upsets her and if it's really different it upsets her. But she has seen parts of Inverview with a Vampire and Lost Boys, but not much because it grossed her out.

Yep, that's what I've seen in a bunch of interviews with her. Doesn't read horror (and has made comments that have a very strong subtext of that the horror genre is bad, disgusting, and evil), and was too freaked/grossed out by Interview With The Vampire and Lost Boys to finish watching them. These are just a few of the reasons Stephanie Meyer makes me full of rage.


askye - Jan 12, 2012 4:29:34 pm PST #8302 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

I've seen the argument that Meyer is being subversive or ... I don't know...that some how her ignorance of the genre is the same as what Joss was doing with Buffy.

She's not, she's just willfully ignorant on the subject and I don't want to read that....unless I take that class on vampire literature at the community college and I'm forced to.