Look, Jilli, some people are shagging their toy confidantes. That does not have to reflect on all the platonic toy relationships out there in any way.
I can handle the Oz Full Monty. I mean, not 'handle' handle.
Xander ,'Help'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2012 6:43:34 pm PST #8122 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
tiggy - Jan 05, 2012 7:25:30 pm PST #8123 of 10459
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
love it, Hec!
DavidS - Jan 05, 2012 7:27:22 pm PST #8124 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
love it, Hec!
We had Willow and Oz cake toppers. And a little Buffy book from Rayne. All of which are neatly assembled in our bedroom today.
DCJensen - Jan 05, 2012 7:49:12 pm PST #8125 of 10459
All is well that ends in pizza.
I wonder how he'll handle Go Fish.
beth b - Jan 05, 2012 8:40:21 pm PST #8126 of 10459
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I just realized what bugs me about Mark and some of the other Xander haters - I can't be the only person that had a friend that was obsessed with a crush. It isn't evil - it just something some people do as teens. (or even through college). Is it healthy? No. Normal? My life seems to suggest that it isn't abnormal either
Polter-Cow - Jan 05, 2012 9:02:39 pm PST #8127 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yeah, I get that it's not great that he continues to be hung up on Buffy even when she's made it clear that she's not interested, but it's a big leap to gross and disgusting stalker.
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2012 9:06:31 pm PST #8128 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He's clearly not stalking his friend--he's not around her unsolicited any more than Willow is, it's just normal friend stuff. He's not peering through her windows at night. I wouldn't even describe him as obsessed with a crush (I, on the other hand, do find that intensely disturbing--I just don't think Xander has gone to *any* extremes. He's just living in hope).
Did Mark make that leap? I'd hope not, for someone who dances around the world of words describing actual conditions existing on the screen to have the lack of empathy to do that.
DavidS - Jan 05, 2012 9:18:09 pm PST #8129 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
There's a lot of complaint in the comments about Xander slut-shaming Cordelia. And trying to control Buffy's love life.
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2012 9:20:06 pm PST #8130 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
OMG, he's a lying sack of crap for that one time, but he's really not that invasive. He's clearly devoted to her for who she is, he's got her back as a friend, doesn't think she owes him sex, just that it would be really cool if he could get it. He's living in hope, and trying to nudge the game every now and again.
And Cordelia is everything-shaming everyone, So people insult her back? It's called fair play.
Polter-Cow - Jan 05, 2012 9:20:53 pm PST #8131 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
No, he's irritated that he continues to be openly jealous of all men who are not him, but it's mostly some commenters who have the big hate-on for Xander, the horribly sexist Nice Guy who is everything that is wrong with men or whatever.