River: I didn't think you'd come for me. Simon: Well, you're a dummy.

'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Strix - Dec 30, 2011 6:41:43 pm PST #8025 of 10459
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I don't think it was established as canon that Dru had problems with mental health pre-vamping; she DID have visions, and was distraught in her flashback when she was talking with Angelus-who-ate-the-priest in the confessional. She had tried to not have visions, and was unhappy about her inability to stop seeing, and "wanted to be good" which implies that she worried about the visions being unholy or what have you.

Which, of course, Angelus just lapped up and told her she was a devil's child and full of evil, and started the whole ball a-rollin'. But we never really saw if or how much she was disturbed pre-confessional, IIRC.


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 6:46:27 pm PST #8026 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Aaahhh, so it was Angelus who told her she was possessed or something! See, faulty memory.

Still, I think it was established well enough that she was not crazy - or "crazy" - pre-Angelus.


le nubian - Dec 30, 2011 6:50:04 pm PST #8027 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, thanks for that folks. I could not remember either.


Polter-Cow - Dec 30, 2011 7:50:20 pm PST #8028 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't see how he could stop you talking about a plot point and have it be conducive to discussion.

Well, you just can't use the word "crazy." Or "insane." Or "psychotic." Or...

Can I just say this sticks in my craw, and I've actually flown over the cuckoo's nest in the last 3 months.

I've seen a few commenters say similar things. I remember one great post where someone said they found the whole idea of "ableism" offensive because it equated mental illness with physical disabilities. I think they were reported for derailing.

I actually look forward to the subject. I would like to think that Mark will sit back and say, "Okay, crazy it is." IRT Dru.

I can guarantee that won't happen. There were epic threads of hundreds of comments about how terrible and hurtful it is and why are you holding on to this one word like it's your best friend. (I mean, he wouldn't even use "bitch" in his "When She Was Bad" review despite it being used in important character moments throughout the episode.)

I think that when you are talking about a non-human, I don't think "ableist" language is even at issue.

Oh, this is probably derailing somehow.

In conclusion, you can't see the stars, love. That's the ceiling. Also, it's day.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 7:51:32 pm PST #8029 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

In conclusion, you can't see the stars, love. That's the ceiling. Also, it's day.

I can see them. But there's terrible confusion. I've given them all the same name.


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 8:29:45 pm PST #8030 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I love you crazy bitches.


Typo Boy - Dec 30, 2011 10:47:57 pm PST #8031 of 10459
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm, I guess "weird sister" would not be allowed either.


Atropa - Dec 30, 2011 11:05:06 pm PST #8032 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize?

Awesome, and the best vampire in the Jossverse.

I mean, on a sanity scale.

See above. Dru is My Girl. Hears voices, prophesizes, and talks to her doll? Best. Vampire.


le nubian - Dec 31, 2011 5:20:25 am PST #8033 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Oh, this is probably derailing somehow

Well, for this and several other reasons, I choose only to read his posts and not discuss or read the comments. I find the nannyism a bit over the top. I get the intentions, but it is too much.


sj - Dec 31, 2011 5:27:06 am PST #8034 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think I will just stick to his posts themselves and stay out of the comment threads, which is usually my policy anyway.