'Underneath'
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Double posting, but..
I feel that Mal is the Buffy of the series, while River is the Buffy of the movie. And perhaps River would have become the Buffy of the series, given enough time....
And now I am thinking of Spike saying "pacey, you blind idoit... can't you see she'll never love you!" because I am mapping tv show characters to tv show characters.
Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.
If you just took River's arc, she winds up going from no-agency genius victim to muy-agency Powergirl.
I can't speak too much about Firefly. But thinking, "Oh, look: a cute, socially awkward girl who babbles childishly but is a genius. Again." was one of the reasons I gave up on it pretty quickly. I'd already had more than enough of that character. At that point it felt like a personal fetish that I'd rather not know about.
Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.
There are collections?
Trade paperbacks, yes.
Killing Penny was Zack Whedon's idea, if anybody is interested.
Sophia,
why do you believe this about Zoe?
And Zoe seems unique and different from anything he has done before, and frankly from anything done anywhere.
Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.
I didn't know that was our spoiler policy, although in thinking about it, I'm not sure we have one for mentioning the comics outside of the comic thread (where the spoiler policy is to wait until the weekend following the release).
I'm sorry, I phrased that poorly. I didn't mean that because of what had or hadn't been released it wasn't kosher, but rather a request, as someone who isn't buying single issues.
Sorry, le nubian, I went to bed. And I have to say this is much more from the TV show than the movie, and my opinion might have changed if the series went on longer
Zoe feels unique to me because she a) is a strong woman physically and mentally, without an explaining reason that seems like an excuse for a woman to be strong (like her son died or she needed to protect something), b) has no sexual tension whatsoever with Mal, and I don't think ever did, c) she is happily married, but has realistic marital troubles given her personality as well as realistic marital romance. Despite the fact that she is a gun toting second in command on a space-ship, she feels like a real person, not a collection of things that will make her interesting to the story.