Saffron: You just had a better hand of cards this time. Mal: It ain't a hand of cards. It's called a life.

'Trash'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


DebetEsse - Sep 05, 2008 6:23:56 pm PDT #6644 of 10467
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.


Strega - Sep 05, 2008 7:39:46 pm PDT #6645 of 10467

If you just took River's arc, she winds up going from no-agency genius victim to muy-agency Powergirl.

I can't speak too much about Firefly. But thinking, "Oh, look: a cute, socially awkward girl who babbles childishly but is a genius. Again." was one of the reasons I gave up on it pretty quickly. I'd already had more than enough of that character. At that point it felt like a personal fetish that I'd rather not know about.


quester - Sep 05, 2008 7:51:52 pm PDT #6646 of 10467
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.

There are collections?


Polter-Cow - Sep 05, 2008 10:07:33 pm PDT #6647 of 10467
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Trade paperbacks, yes.


Kevin - Sep 06, 2008 1:28:27 am PDT #6648 of 10467
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Killing Penny was Zack Whedon's idea, if anybody is interested.


le nubian - Sep 06, 2008 3:04:37 am PDT #6649 of 10467
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Sophia,

why do you believe this about Zoe?

And Zoe seems unique and different from anything he has done before, and frankly from anything done anywhere.


Steph L. - Sep 06, 2008 6:11:36 am PDT #6650 of 10467
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Teppy, could you please whitefont the Season 8 stuff? It's not been in the collections yet.

I didn't know that was our spoiler policy, although in thinking about it, I'm not sure we have one for mentioning the comics outside of the comic thread (where the spoiler policy is to wait until the weekend following the release).


DebetEsse - Sep 06, 2008 6:38:07 am PDT #6651 of 10467
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm sorry, I phrased that poorly. I didn't mean that because of what had or hadn't been released it wasn't kosher, but rather a request, as someone who isn't buying single issues.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 06, 2008 11:21:17 am PDT #6652 of 10467
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Sorry, le nubian, I went to bed. And I have to say this is much more from the TV show than the movie, and my opinion might have changed if the series went on longer

Zoe feels unique to me because she a) is a strong woman physically and mentally, without an explaining reason that seems like an excuse for a woman to be strong (like her son died or she needed to protect something), b) has no sexual tension whatsoever with Mal, and I don't think ever did, c) she is happily married, but has realistic marital troubles given her personality as well as realistic marital romance. Despite the fact that she is a gun toting second in command on a space-ship, she feels like a real person, not a collection of things that will make her interesting to the story.


le nubian - Sep 06, 2008 11:34:55 am PDT #6653 of 10467
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Sophia,

hey, I posted that this morning, so you responded in the same day to me! :-)

[link]

This link is a new column from one of the founders of TWOP and she describes the Bechtel rule:

1. At least two female characters, who ...

2. talk to each other about...

3. something besides a man.

Your comments and the above rules remind me that it can be really hard to find that a self-confident woman character on tv who doesn't have sexual tension with the main male characters.