see, I loved "She" because of the spazz dancing. I could (umm, *have*) watched that over and over.
I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.
Giles ,'Beneath You'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
le nubian - Aug 04, 2008 8:00:06 am PDT #6426 of 10467
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Vonnie K - Aug 04, 2008 8:05:44 am PDT #6427 of 10467
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
The one with the idiot physicist and universe-freezing during the big O. Erm, "Happy Anniversary", was it? Gross.
sumi - Aug 04, 2008 8:08:58 am PDT #6428 of 10467
Art Crawl!!!
Oh yeah, that was bad and no spazz dancing or Baudelaire referencing in that one.
Strega - Aug 04, 2008 8:44:18 am PDT #6429 of 10467
The worst Angel episode ever is Dad. There are a lot of strong contenders for second-worst, including I Fall To Pieces and, well, A Hole in the Fucking World. But they're no Dad.
billytea - Aug 04, 2008 8:46:55 am PDT #6430 of 10467
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
The worst Angel episode ever is Dad. There are a lot of strong contenders for second-worst, including I Fall To Pieces and, well, A Hole in the Fucking World. But they're no Dad.
This is a view I can get behind.
Jon B. - Aug 04, 2008 8:51:49 am PDT #6431 of 10467
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Really? I just rewatched "Dad" recently and... I didn't hate it. "Happy Anniversary" I can get behind.
billytea - Aug 04, 2008 9:01:09 am PDT #6432 of 10467
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Really? I just rewatched "Dad" recently and... I didn't hate it. "Happy Anniversary" I can get behind.
Yeah. Didn't like the characterisation of Angel, didn't care about his quest for a college fund, it all felt rather aimless. Which is not to say I'd argue against the choice of Happy Anniversary.
le nubian - Aug 04, 2008 9:30:08 am PDT #6433 of 10467
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I do not remember "I Fall to Pieces" at all. Like it was erased from my memory.
Strega - Aug 04, 2008 10:05:06 am PDT #6434 of 10467
In Dad they came up with a secret plan to trick the bad guys which doesn't actually make any sense because the only people who were tricked by the plan don't do anything as a result of being tricked. Which makes it clear that the only reason for all the shenanigans is to trick the audience, because if the audience knew as much as ANY of the main characters, they'd be bored.
If the writers don't have to play fair at all, anything can be written off as "this was part of the secret plan you didn' tknow about" or "and then she woke up and Bobby was in the shower" or whatever. I just think that is an appalling cheat and a betrayal of the audience's trust, and it genuinely enrages me whenever I run across it in a TV show. I feel like Buffy did it at least once, too.
Oh yes, and plus, all the "we have a cunning secret plan" thing is just the surface action. The real core of the episode, the emotional story, is that Angel realizes that he has to share parental responsibility, and trust his friends with Connor. And that realization... also happens offscreen. Which is where I think it really earns the "worst ever" title.
I do not remember "I Fall to Pieces" at all. Like it was erased from my memory.
A man's jaw jumps out of his mouth! And flies through the air and almost bites Angel! It's awesome. And terrible. Both.
le nubian - Aug 04, 2008 10:21:50 am PDT #6435 of 10467
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
OMG. I do remember now...