I'm with Vonnie.
sigh. Well, 2/3s of it didn't trigger feminist rage issues. And NPH was very, very good. But then they had to go and STUFF HER IN THE FRIDGE. JESUSFUCK, MEN, DO YOU LEARN NOTHING?????
These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I -- how about that?
Kaylee ,'Shindig'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
P.M. Marc - Jul 18, 2008 8:24:56 pm PDT #6237 of 10467
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
beth b - Jul 18, 2008 8:37:10 pm PDT #6238 of 10467
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I don't know she had doubts, yet refused to listen to them. The men in her life didn't see her as a complete being
Burrell - Jul 18, 2008 8:39:34 pm PDT #6239 of 10467
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I do agree the last ep wasn't as satisfying, but it was also several minutes shorter in order to include the credits. It lacked a final twist/gag. Although I have to say, having now seen Bad Horse, the line "or he'll make you his mare" is even funnier.
Tamara - Jul 18, 2008 8:49:09 pm PDT #6240 of 10467
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
I thought it was great. Perfect ending of an origin story. And fridge? What?
libkitty - Jul 18, 2008 8:53:08 pm PDT #6241 of 10467
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs
I just wanna cry . And I wanna see more. I totally missed my grrr, argh. I didn't realize quite how much. This can't be all there is! There should be more. I want more. With more music, and funny, and clever, and, and, MORE.
And yes, it could be Tim , but it still feels like classic Joss to me.
eta: I know this is Buffistas, and we're supposed to be all coherent in our passion, and not all blobbering fangurl, but I can't help it. It's been so long. With this short webcast, Joss and company have turned me into a blathering idiot.
beth b - Jul 18, 2008 8:53:59 pm PDT #6242 of 10467
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
Actually , the more I think about Penny the more I know her non- place in the world was Very deliberate -- in the paper after her death ,she was called 'what's her name". In comic books/ superhero stories the victim is only there so the hero and villain have a reason to fight. GFs are only there to die tragically or to plotted against by the villain and be rescued by the hero. And since this was a spoof...
P.M. Marc - Jul 18, 2008 8:58:30 pm PDT #6243 of 10467
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Hmm... as a spoof, it's just this side of too sincere to work for me. Were it more clearly spoofing, and had there not been previous clearly and utterly sincere variations on the trope in ME history, I'd probably be less uncomfortable.
Tamara: [link]
Burrell - Jul 18, 2008 9:08:56 pm PDT #6244 of 10467
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I see your point Plei, but for me it wasn't her death that bothered me so much as that it didn't have a strong enough visual/narrative payoff.
Tamara - Jul 18, 2008 9:13:39 pm PDT #6245 of 10467
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Yeah, that doesn't work for me, Plei, but then I save my feminist rage for other things. Typical Joss Whedon just doesn't push those buttons.
I knew that it was going to end that way for someone. And it is the perfect set up for a sequel.
P.M. Marc - Jul 18, 2008 9:14:52 pm PDT #6246 of 10467
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Burrell, the shallow part of what irks me about that particular trope is that it's SUCH fucking shorthand, and I've seen it SO often, so for me, it never ends up feeling earned. And maybe they could have pulled it off with four acts, or with broader performances all around (Side note, when NPH strides in and is doing the full-on Dr. Horrible in control thing after freezing The Hammer? Damn, he was scary. He'd be a good Judas in JC Superstar.), but it didn't work for me there.