Tara: What's so bad about them coming here? Aren't they good guys? I mean, Watchers, that's just like whole other Gileses, right? Buffy: Yes! They're scary and horrible!

'Potential'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


beathen - May 10, 2005 6:48:40 am PDT #613 of 10458
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

Amazon just alerted me to order the Angel soundtrack album, "Live Fast, Die Never".

It has the Christian Kane song! And Lorne singing "It's not easy being green!"

It's already available to ship through Amazon UK. (I've had mine for about 2 months already.)


Strega - May 10, 2005 7:16:54 am PDT #614 of 10458

I guess what I'm trying to say is that for me, it seems as though Darla is very much a symbol in Angel's mind.

See, that's exactly how I think he saw Buffy: "If I can help the Heroic Princess and win her love, that will prove I'm Good now." He is the one with the fairy-tale mentality. Again, some of that is just because I can't understand what they actually liked about each other. There's a point at which I just throw up my hands and figure the hellmouth had something to do with it.

I do think he and Darla cared about each other a lot, though. In their own special way.

I mean, so much of their history together was tied up in not caring-- about each other, or anyone else.
I thought they were like Valmont & Merteuil, y'know? They understood and respected each other at a profound level. I always had this problem where, to me, "Heartthrob" is about how they had one of the few mature relationships we saw on either show, but I'm not sure if it was intended that way or if I just have a few issues. Ahem.

But come on, she rescued him from Holtz; he almost ate a baby for her. That's gotta mean something.


Jessica - May 10, 2005 7:19:16 am PDT #615 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Again, some of that is just because I can't understand what they actually liked about each other. There's a point at which I just throw up my hands and figure the hellmouth had something to do with it.

Heh. Strega is me here.

I always found the B/A relationship confusing at best.


Katie M - May 10, 2005 7:27:05 am PDT #616 of 10458
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, I think B/A either you wave your hands frantically at the screen and go "look! See? Right there!" (me) or you don't, in which case it makes no sense whatsoever.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 7:29:42 am PDT #617 of 10458
brillig

they had one of the few mature relationships we saw on either show

Is this in regard to Angel and Darla? I can see this where they're sitting in the motel and DArla's finally accepted that she's going to die and she's beginning to appreciate how far Angel went for her--all her reactions during Angel's trial are just wonderful--and he's pledging to stay with her till the end--

I almost hate to see Drusilla come through the door.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 7:31:33 am PDT #618 of 10458
brillig

Yeah, I think B/A either you wave your hands frantically at the screen and go "look! See? Right there!"

There are moments when I see the attraction, but it's very much a Knight and his Lady sort of thing, not simply a man and a woman. Oddly, it's the Sadie Hawkins/50's ghost ep where I see it strongest, that moment when the ghosts leave and it's Angelus and Buffy staring at her, and Angelus bolts instead of ripping her head off.


-t - May 10, 2005 7:32:37 am PDT #619 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I almost hate to see Drusilla come through the door.

Oh, that's heartbreaking. Not least because Drusilla has no idea what she's doing.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 10, 2005 7:37:28 am PDT #620 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ugh. That just reminds me how bitter I am that they got Juliet Landau back in more than one episode for the final season and (comparatively) wasted her appearances on being a frilly love object in flashbacks rather than resolving anything with a modern day empowered Drusilla.

Part of me wishes she'd been in the lab holding Fred's head down over that sarcophagus, unbeknownst to anyone else.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 7:41:14 am PDT #621 of 10458
brillig

a modern day empowered Drusilla

"Crush" is the last time we see Dru in 'real time' isn't it.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2005 7:41:32 am PDT #622 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Part of me wishes she'd been in the lab holding Fred's head down over that sarcophagus, unbeknownst to anyone else.

Oh man, Drusilla so would have done Illyria's bidding. They'd had to have gotten Juliet for an extended run though. That could have been fun. Although I'm not sure how long Illyria would have put up with the crazy.