We'll be in our bunk.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Sep 04, 2007 6:51:47 am PDT #5308 of 10469
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I dunno, I love Connor & S4, but I can't imagine it would have been a fun role to play.

Yeah...I mean, I'm not thrilled that the actor playing one of my favorite characters was miserable on set, but I also kinda can't blame him.


Sparky1 - Sep 04, 2007 7:16:07 am PDT #5309 of 10469
Librarian Warlord

Does anyone else think that he sounds like an asshole?

It happened for me at his answer to this question:

The Scanner: The writers do a fantastic job depicting the gender politics of that era. Do the scripts ever spark any discussion on set?

Kartheiser: Yeah, there are a lot of women on set who look at their characters’ lives and say, “Why did we ever burn our bras? Things were kinda nice.” . . .


Stephanie - Sep 04, 2007 8:41:01 am PDT #5310 of 10469
Trust my rage

Yeah, I agree with Sparky. I had to read that twice to be sure I got what he was saying.


Scrappy - Sep 04, 2007 8:58:40 am PDT #5311 of 10469
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

That didn't read as assholey to me, because the women are saying that. not him. And the fact the women are saying that is what he finds interesting.


Vortex - Sep 04, 2007 9:03:49 am PDT #5312 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yes, it's nice that your psychiatrist tells your husband about your sessions and calls you a child @@


Sparky1 - Sep 04, 2007 9:07:57 am PDT #5313 of 10469
Librarian Warlord

Hmm, it doesn't read to me that way -- my reading of that whole paragraph is that he's using the "a lot of women" strawman (straw-people) to express what he's actually asserting as his opinion -- that he believes women (and men) were better off with those defined gender roles.


Vortex - Sep 04, 2007 9:23:49 am PDT #5314 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Hmm, it doesn't read to me that way -- my reading of that whole paragraph is that he's using the "a lot of women" strawman (straw-people) to express what he's actually asserting as his opinion -- that he believes women (and men) were better off with those defined gender roles.

me too. But I fully admit to a bias against him.


Fred Pete - Sep 04, 2007 9:23:54 am PDT #5315 of 10469
Ann, that's a ferret.

By the end of the paragraph, he's clearly asserting it as his own opinion.

And I'll agree with him that gender roles were more clearly defined at that time. But I can't agree that it was a good thing. A lot of people don't fit their preassigned roles.


sj - Sep 04, 2007 9:24:53 am PDT #5316 of 10469
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I keep hoping that that comment was a failed attempt at humor on VK's part, but he really does sound like an asshat throughout the interview.


Fred Pete - Sep 04, 2007 9:32:16 am PDT #5317 of 10469
Ann, that's a ferret.

Not to mention that, ok, he wasn't a fan of Buffy and didn't know the backstory when he came on as Connor. Fair enough.

But when you're an unknown coming in to an established series, I'd doubt you should expect much leverage with the script writers. And after a while, you don't have much room to complain that you don't understand the back story.