Bester: Mal. Whaddya need two mechanics for? Mal: I really don't.

'Out Of Gas'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


victor infante - Aug 23, 2007 10:56:28 am PDT #5222 of 10469
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Incidentally, Mr. Trick was killed off because the actor begged out of the role to take another opportunity.

Which of course is the problem with episodic television -- actors have free will. Of course, the most famous example of this was Oz leaving. I totally believe Joss when he says that Tara died the death Oz was supposed to have.

I really got bored with Buffy defending Spike with "he has a soul", which she seemed to forget that Warren had a soul and it didn't stop him from doing bad.

The problem being, of course, that having the soul fundamentally means he was a different entity than unsouled Spike. More or less. Soulless Spike is the demon driving through the filter of William's memories. Souled Spike is William himself, in a vampire's body. I dislike a lot of how it was handled, but I actually agree with Buffy's sentiment.


Aims - Aug 23, 2007 10:57:15 am PDT #5223 of 10469
Shit's all sorts of different now.

actors have free will

G-D actors.


juliana - Aug 23, 2007 10:57:51 am PDT #5224 of 10469
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

actors have free will

Stupid actors.

edit: HA!! X-posty of bitterness!


Aims - Aug 23, 2007 10:58:19 am PDT #5225 of 10469
Shit's all sorts of different now.

BWAH!

high fives juliana


Kate P. - Aug 23, 2007 10:58:29 am PDT #5226 of 10469
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hahahahaha! Love the x-post.


Atropa - Aug 23, 2007 10:59:50 am PDT #5227 of 10469
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I have this whole AU theory in which Dru, having vamped a convienent gypsy sorceress, returns to Sunnydale, has the gypsy minion remove Spike's soul, and then those two crazy kids make up.


askye - Aug 23, 2007 11:01:40 am PDT #5228 of 10469
Thrive to spite them

I really really really hated Spike looking like a walking Gap ad. I just couldn't get over that. True Dru came back and he put on his black again and cattle prodded Buffy tryign to "make" her love him (which actually was characterization I could believe) but he still dressed in khakis.


P.M. Marc - Aug 23, 2007 11:09:06 am PDT #5229 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The problem being, of course, that having the soul fundamentally means he was a different entity than unsouled Spike. More or less. Soulless Spike is the demon driving through the filter of William's memories. Souled Spike is William himself, in a vampire's body. I dislike a lot of how it was handled, but I actually agree with Buffy's sentiment.

Which I would buy more, had that been what was shown, not just what was told.

And it wasn't, in fact, what was shown in S7, unless William and Spike happened to be a lot more alike than flashbacks showed.

Nor (we're fraternal brain twins today) does it map to Angel, who is neither Angelus nor Liam.

There were ways they could have got around it, and could have shown the character as changed. They didn't, not after his scene-chew on the cross, and their attempts to have their cake and eat it too left a sour taste in my mouth.


Laga - Aug 23, 2007 11:17:53 am PDT #5230 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Sorry, I'm new. Would anyone be willing to tell me what's a "dead lesbian cliche" or does that dredge up too many bad memories?


tiggy - Aug 23, 2007 11:22:05 am PDT #5231 of 10469
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Would anyone be willing to tell me what's a "dead lesbian cliche"

if you're feeling brave, the kitten board still has up their FAQ here.

Denise! i googled "dead lesbian cliche" and one of your lj posts was on the first page! hahahahaha!!