actors have free will
G-D actors.
Lorne: Back in Pylea they used to call me "sweet potato." Connor: Really. Lorne: Yeah, well, the exact translation was "fragrant tuber" but…
'Conviction (1)'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Aims - Aug 23, 2007 10:57:15 am PDT #5223 of 10469
Shit's all sorts of different now.
juliana - Aug 23, 2007 10:57:51 am PDT #5224 of 10469
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
actors have free will
Stupid actors.
edit: HA!! X-posty of bitterness!
Aims - Aug 23, 2007 10:58:19 am PDT #5225 of 10469
Shit's all sorts of different now.
BWAH!
high fives juliana
Kate P. - Aug 23, 2007 10:58:29 am PDT #5226 of 10469
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
Hahahahaha! Love the x-post.
Atropa - Aug 23, 2007 10:59:50 am PDT #5227 of 10469
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
I have this whole AU theory in which Dru, having vamped a convienent gypsy sorceress, returns to Sunnydale, has the gypsy minion remove Spike's soul, and then those two crazy kids make up.
askye - Aug 23, 2007 11:01:40 am PDT #5228 of 10469
Thrive to spite them
I really really really hated Spike looking like a walking Gap ad. I just couldn't get over that. True Dru came back and he put on his black again and cattle prodded Buffy tryign to "make" her love him (which actually was characterization I could believe) but he still dressed in khakis.
P.M. Marc - Aug 23, 2007 11:09:06 am PDT #5229 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
The problem being, of course, that having the soul fundamentally means he was a different entity than unsouled Spike. More or less. Soulless Spike is the demon driving through the filter of William's memories. Souled Spike is William himself, in a vampire's body. I dislike a lot of how it was handled, but I actually agree with Buffy's sentiment.
Which I would buy more, had that been what was shown, not just what was told.
And it wasn't, in fact, what was shown in S7, unless William and Spike happened to be a lot more alike than flashbacks showed.
Nor (we're fraternal brain twins today) does it map to Angel, who is neither Angelus nor Liam.
There were ways they could have got around it, and could have shown the character as changed. They didn't, not after his scene-chew on the cross, and their attempts to have their cake and eat it too left a sour taste in my mouth.
Laga - Aug 23, 2007 11:17:53 am PDT #5230 of 10469
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Sorry, I'm new. Would anyone be willing to tell me what's a "dead lesbian cliche" or does that dredge up too many bad memories?
tiggy - Aug 23, 2007 11:22:05 am PDT #5231 of 10469
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Would anyone be willing to tell me what's a "dead lesbian cliche"
if you're feeling brave, the kitten board still has up their FAQ here.
Denise! i googled "dead lesbian cliche" and one of your lj posts was on the first page! hahahahaha!!
P.M. Marc - Aug 23, 2007 11:25:43 am PDT #5232 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Sorry, I'm new. Would anyone be willing to tell me what's a "dead lesbian cliche" or does that dredge up too many bad memories?
In a lot of pre-Stonewall, and more post-Stonewall than is comfortable to admit for many, literature and film, lesbian characters tended to end tragically.
If you've done queer film studies, it's a pretty well-known trope. Vampires and Violets covered it fairly thoroughly.
So when Tara was killed, and Willow went dark side, people familar with the trope felt betrayed by the terminal ending of a fairly positive portrayal of a lesbian relationship on TV.