And we thought the uproar of crazy Tara fans was loud...
Kaylee: Can I? Zoe: Sure. He's out, though. Kaylee: He did this for me, once.
'Safe'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2007 1:39:35 pm PDT #5208 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
JohnSweden - Aug 22, 2007 1:49:43 pm PDT #5209 of 10469
I can't even.
And we thought the uproar of crazy Tara fans was loud...
I was just typing that very thing, Matt. So many ways to have killed Spike and made the show better, so many writer crushes not letting him go.
Sophia Brooks - Aug 23, 2007 3:17:05 am PDT #5210 of 10469
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I am a Spike fan, and I wanted him redeemed, and I still think the story they told was sort of lame and gave me whiplash. IIn Season Five, it seemed like they were going for "vampire redeemed by unrequited love", which was fine, but then, frankly, he never should have had a real relationship with Buffy. In Season Six, he was the bad boy boyfriend, which was also fine, but didn't seem to go with Season Five, so I kept expecting him to be redeemed instead. Again, that story would have worked, but I didn't even get what they were going for (I am lame) until Season Seven, when there was yet another story of a vampire with a soul, being redeemed, but by that time, I couldn't forget the "bad boy" stuff, even if he did have a soul. Plus, there was already a souled vampire. Plus he said "make me what I was so I can give her what she deserves", and he never was a souled vampire before!
Vortex - Aug 23, 2007 5:28:45 am PDT #5211 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Plus he said "make me what I was so I can give her what she deserves", and he never was a souled vampire before!
I'm not sure whether he specifically asked for his soul back or whether it was a monkey's paw sort of wish.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 23, 2007 5:45:06 am PDT #5212 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think I'm in agreement with Jessica's assessment back when that the glowy-eyed demon in Africa gave Spike his soul just to mess with him.
Sophia Brooks - Aug 23, 2007 5:53:44 am PDT #5213 of 10469
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I think I'm in agreement with Jessica's assessment back when that the glowy-eyed demon in Africa gave Spike his soul just to mess with him.
I would think that too, but I don't recall him acting like it wasn't what he wanted.
sumi - Aug 23, 2007 5:56:08 am PDT #5214 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!
I think that they didn't tell him (JM) and then it (the soul) drove him (Spike) mad.
Denise - Aug 23, 2007 8:11:30 am PDT #5215 of 10469
Oh, God. I never thought I'd see the did/didn't Spike wish for his soul back debate, again.
I'm now having bad, bad flashbacks.
Jessica - Aug 23, 2007 9:11:40 am PDT #5216 of 10469
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Jessica's assessment back when
Was it? I don't remember having that theory. (I mean, it sounds like something I might say, I just have no memory of actually doing it.)
tiggy - Aug 23, 2007 9:17:01 am PDT #5217 of 10469
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
I'm now having bad, bad flashbacks.
heh. poor Denise. i never felt like those were as bad as the "dead lesbian cliche" fights were though. they just lasted...longer. at least white wings and Ojagwers have shortened the debate these days to "is not/is so".