It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


libkitty - Sep 12, 2006 5:44:53 pm PDT #3595 of 10469
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I still can't figure what they wanted to do with Angel in the beginning.

The more I re-watch, the more different he seems early on.


DavidS - Sep 12, 2006 5:45:05 pm PDT #3596 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also? What the heck does "gimme the Spielberg" mean?

The filtery lights?


P.M. Marc - Sep 12, 2006 5:45:05 pm PDT #3597 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Not really. Her breasts still had a little baby fat, though, I think.

More Wonder Bra than baby fat, I think.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:45:19 pm PDT #3598 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Giles is entirely too gleeful here.

"Maybe you could blow something up."

"The Earth is most definitely doomed."


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 5:47:14 pm PDT #3599 of 10469
Because books.

You know, human.

Totally.

More Wonder Bra than baby fat, I think.

Probably. They often seemed oddly pointy.

The more I watch, the more different he seems early on.

Exactly. Here's he sly, cynical, lazy, almost a tease. Which does not fit with the Angel who was supposed to have fallen in love with her back in L.A. and followed her to Sunnydale to "help" her.

I hate that.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:49:26 pm PDT #3600 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Ahhh, the cymbal beheading.

Cheesy kicker line though.

True, but cheesy in a Xander sort of way, I think.

ETA:3600!

(Is that a glee-worthy number?)


DavidS - Sep 12, 2006 5:49:33 pm PDT #3601 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's interesting how much is exactly already in place, and how much is off in the pilot.


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 5:51:19 pm PDT #3602 of 10469
Because books.

It's interesting how much is exactly already in place, and how much is off in the pilot.

For one thing, NB and CC are completely comfortable in their roles, while everyone else is still feeling it out a little bit, even SMG.

And ASH's British gets stiffer from time to time with no discernible reason.


libkitty - Sep 12, 2006 5:55:24 pm PDT #3603 of 10469
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

For one thing, NB and CC are completely comfortable in their roles, while everyone else is still feeling it out a little bit, even SMG.

I don't remember this from earlier viewings, but it's very clear this time. Also, I suppose we should cut some slack for characters that were only supposed to be temporary, but it's jarring to see the difference.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:55:28 pm PDT #3604 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

And ASH's British gets stiffer from time to time with no discernible reason.

Huh. In a writing way or an acting way?