Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:45:19 pm PDT #3598 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Giles is entirely too gleeful here.

"Maybe you could blow something up."

"The Earth is most definitely doomed."


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 5:47:14 pm PDT #3599 of 10469
Because books.

You know, human.

Totally.

More Wonder Bra than baby fat, I think.

Probably. They often seemed oddly pointy.

The more I watch, the more different he seems early on.

Exactly. Here's he sly, cynical, lazy, almost a tease. Which does not fit with the Angel who was supposed to have fallen in love with her back in L.A. and followed her to Sunnydale to "help" her.

I hate that.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:49:26 pm PDT #3600 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Ahhh, the cymbal beheading.

Cheesy kicker line though.

True, but cheesy in a Xander sort of way, I think.

ETA:3600!

(Is that a glee-worthy number?)


DavidS - Sep 12, 2006 5:49:33 pm PDT #3601 of 10469
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's interesting how much is exactly already in place, and how much is off in the pilot.


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 5:51:19 pm PDT #3602 of 10469
Because books.

It's interesting how much is exactly already in place, and how much is off in the pilot.

For one thing, NB and CC are completely comfortable in their roles, while everyone else is still feeling it out a little bit, even SMG.

And ASH's British gets stiffer from time to time with no discernible reason.


libkitty - Sep 12, 2006 5:55:24 pm PDT #3603 of 10469
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

For one thing, NB and CC are completely comfortable in their roles, while everyone else is still feeling it out a little bit, even SMG.

I don't remember this from earlier viewings, but it's very clear this time. Also, I suppose we should cut some slack for characters that were only supposed to be temporary, but it's jarring to see the difference.


chrismg - Sep 12, 2006 5:55:28 pm PDT #3604 of 10469
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

And ASH's British gets stiffer from time to time with no discernible reason.

Huh. In a writing way or an acting way?


libkitty - Sep 12, 2006 5:57:29 pm PDT #3605 of 10469
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I finally realized who Early!Angel reminds me of. The weaselly bartender. I can't remember his name, but the actor ended up on Becker. Although, of course, Angel is much, MUCH, cuter.

eta: Saverio Guerra, who is actually not all that bad looking when not playing a weasel.


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 6:00:26 pm PDT #3606 of 10469
Because books.

In a writing way or an acting way?

In an acting way.

Like those last lines, which I love anyway, but he's suddenly so stiffly British again.

Also, what was his line about people forgetting what they don't understand or don't want to see...? (Yes, my brain is a sieve.)

It's another great setup for the series as a whole, especially as pertaining to high school. Cordelia forgot all about the coolness Buffy exhibited with one act of random strangeness (last ep), and there are no parents present at all except for Joyce, who clearly doesn't "see" what's going on with her daughter. So many perfect metaphors for growing up/high school right there.


Amy - Sep 12, 2006 6:14:37 pm PDT #3607 of 10469
Because books.

I didn't mean to kill the thread. I swear.