You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Betsy HP - Apr 08, 2005 8:40:41 am PDT #340 of 10457
If I only had a brain...

a sign of a fantastic parent.

Hah. It's a really good day for me when I never once call my son by either my husband's name or the cat's.


Kathy A - Apr 08, 2005 8:43:37 am PDT #341 of 10457
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm not saying it's something I would do myself--I'd be more likely to be like my mom (and grandma) and run through the list of all my kids before getting to the right one. My poor grandma had 24 grandchildren, many of whom seem to have been born in batches (3 or 4 kids of the same gender in the same year or two), so it was a lot worse for her!


Fred Pete - Apr 08, 2005 8:54:32 am PDT #342 of 10457
Ann, that's a ferret.

Carol Brady, of The Brady Bunch.

Why, pray tell? I don't remember her as being particularly good, but not particularly bad, either.

But I'd put Roseanne Connor in the running for worst. The regular insults, not good for self-worth.


Kathy A - Apr 08, 2005 9:01:00 am PDT #343 of 10457
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Tucker has issues with the Brady Bunch, overall. I'd have to take a look at the book again to remember what they were, but he devoted a whole column, instead of just one paragraph in the Worst Moms column, to the Bradys.


P.M. Marc - Apr 08, 2005 9:11:04 am PDT #344 of 10457
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

BtVS gave viewers the only believable treatment of sex in modern life, as opposed to the giggly teenage view most other shows provide.

So, sex is bad, then?

Also, works better than a gorilla bar for wrecking houses?


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 9:14:01 am PDT #345 of 10457
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, sex is more complicated than the de rigeur pregnancy scare.


bon bon - Apr 08, 2005 9:19:40 am PDT #346 of 10457
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Yeah, sometimes you get freaky just because you were snatched out of paradise.


Lyra Jane - Apr 08, 2005 9:31:15 am PDT #347 of 10457
Up with the sun

From my limited Gilmore Girls knowledge, I agree Lorelai can be too co-dependent, but I think she did a pretty good job for a teenager with little family support. I'm not sure who I'd nominate as a better mom on TV now, though. Maybe Kirsten Cohen.

And I would love to know what Tucker's Brady Bunch issues are.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 9:33:10 am PDT #348 of 10457
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Kirsten's a much better mother, and to keep it in the family, Julie's one of the worst. But unlike most of the worsts -- she's meant to be.

Ma Kent's a decent mom...I'm blanking on all mothers, now.


Lyra Jane - Apr 08, 2005 9:37:12 am PDT #349 of 10457
Up with the sun

The only problem with nominating Kirsten is that Seth, though he is witty and charming and adorable, was miserable and badly adjusted for most of his adolescence. I recognize not everything is mom and dad's fault, but it does seem like she and Sandy had been letting that slide more than they maybe should have.

Julie is a terrible mom but an excellent TV character.