Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2006 12:46:03 am PDT #3194 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I still remember popping back in to the UPN Bronze to gripe about what a betrayal of Joss' early pro-nerd stance Andrew was, with a side of I'm-glad-this-walking- minstrel-show-has-been-reclaimed-for-heterosexuality-by-the-Bond-Girls. If I recall correctly, some newbie who was outraged that anyone would dare be less than complimentary to her snookie ookums Ultimate Drew called me on how not liking Andrew showed how obviously insecure I was in my own sexuality.

Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah!


sj - Jul 08, 2006 5:29:13 am PDT #3195 of 10464
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

there were bits of the TGIQ I enjoyed, but those bits didn't earn the bits I hated so much I can tell I need to stop talking about it now because I feel my ire rising and why did they do that and oh bad writers no biscuit you're making me go all stream of consciousness and this isn't the time or place and look at that cup of iced tea I should take a sip and scroll up again and try to find something amusing that gets my blood pressure to back off a little bit because I'm getting angry all over again and it's just so urgh.

I t heart Cindy. I hate TGIQ so very very very much.


Jessica - Jul 08, 2006 5:47:47 am PDT #3196 of 10464
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

how not liking Andrew showed how obviously insecure I was in my own sexuality.

BWAH!


P.M. Marc - Jul 08, 2006 11:40:31 am PDT #3197 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

HAHAHA.

Oh, my. Did you, err... set her straight, for want of a better term?


libkitty - Jul 08, 2006 7:56:31 pm PDT #3198 of 10464
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I see his attractiveness, but I don't feel it.

I didn't even see it on Pylea. But once he got his hair cut, wow! The long hair made his mouth look funny. It's a thing.

I should go back and watch, but I'm all confused about TGIQ. Isn't that the Italian one with fake!Buffy and The Immortal?


DebetEsse - Jul 08, 2006 8:00:16 pm PDT #3199 of 10464
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yes, it is, LibKitty


libkitty - Jul 08, 2006 8:04:09 pm PDT #3200 of 10464
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Ok. Thanks. In that case, I hated that episode with a passion. Blech. Double blech. Horrid.

edited to add the only thing I didn't hate about the ep: ptui!


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2006 8:57:53 pm PDT #3201 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, my. Did you, err... set her straight, for want of a better term?

Actually, Allyson responded on my behalf before I returned to catch up on the discussion. At any rate, I'd be willing to let one mincing, negative portrayal slide given Larry, Willow, and Tara (and most of the cast of Angel at one time or another) if not for the issue of the formerly geek-friendly show holding Andrew up for ridicule over many of the traits that were once lauded as strengths in the main characters. And the audience.


Volans - Jul 09, 2006 12:06:02 am PDT #3202 of 10464
move out and draw fire

some newbie who was outraged that anyone would dare be less than complimentary to her snookie ookums Ultimate Drew called me on how not liking Andrew showed how obviously insecure I was in my own sexuality.

Funny how that stunning analysis of you actually reveals more about the speaker.

Andrew up for ridicule over many of the traits that were once lauded as strengths

Yeah. *sigh* I wonder if I can ever buy S7. Apparently, years on, I'm still bitter.


Gris - Jul 09, 2006 7:12:15 am PDT #3203 of 10464
Hey. New board.

I've been slowly rewatching Buffy with my sister, since she's in town and has expressed interest in the show before. We recently finished Season 2. She is in love with Oz, naturally, and I remembered why I love this show so much. I also remembered why it's so hard for people to get into - if I were to turn this show on to an episode of Bad Eggs, or Ted, or Go Fish, or Killed by Death, or, actually, pretty much anything in Season 2, I probably wouldn't tune in again. The great episodes are greatest in context, and the not-great episodes are just so... well, not bad, because the dialogue and characters are consistently fantastic, but... silly. I mean, I probably would be more willing to give such a show a chance now than I would have been when the show aired, but that's BECAUSE of Buffy, and not everybody has had that push to accept silly horror/fantasy.

I guess I'm yet again just thankful for the roommate who encouraged my watching it when I was depressed and had mono, because it's the only way I would ever have watched enough to fall in love. Now, of course, I only watch TV that way - if it's recommended with enough magic words ("dialogue," "writing," and "dramedy" being fairly important ones) then I'll watch at least 10 episodes before giving up.

Anyway. Season 2 is still really good. Passion and Becoming remain some of the most powerful TV moments I've seen. I'm looking forward even more to Season 3 though - I always thought it provided a better balance between the good and the bad than season 2. There's nothing quite as great as Passion in there, at least not along serious lines, but I think it's consistently more enjoyable. Plus, Faith. And more Oz.