I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Volans - Jul 09, 2006 12:06:02 am PDT #3202 of 10464
move out and draw fire

some newbie who was outraged that anyone would dare be less than complimentary to her snookie ookums Ultimate Drew called me on how not liking Andrew showed how obviously insecure I was in my own sexuality.

Funny how that stunning analysis of you actually reveals more about the speaker.

Andrew up for ridicule over many of the traits that were once lauded as strengths

Yeah. *sigh* I wonder if I can ever buy S7. Apparently, years on, I'm still bitter.


Gris - Jul 09, 2006 7:12:15 am PDT #3203 of 10464
Hey. New board.

I've been slowly rewatching Buffy with my sister, since she's in town and has expressed interest in the show before. We recently finished Season 2. She is in love with Oz, naturally, and I remembered why I love this show so much. I also remembered why it's so hard for people to get into - if I were to turn this show on to an episode of Bad Eggs, or Ted, or Go Fish, or Killed by Death, or, actually, pretty much anything in Season 2, I probably wouldn't tune in again. The great episodes are greatest in context, and the not-great episodes are just so... well, not bad, because the dialogue and characters are consistently fantastic, but... silly. I mean, I probably would be more willing to give such a show a chance now than I would have been when the show aired, but that's BECAUSE of Buffy, and not everybody has had that push to accept silly horror/fantasy.

I guess I'm yet again just thankful for the roommate who encouraged my watching it when I was depressed and had mono, because it's the only way I would ever have watched enough to fall in love. Now, of course, I only watch TV that way - if it's recommended with enough magic words ("dialogue," "writing," and "dramedy" being fairly important ones) then I'll watch at least 10 episodes before giving up.

Anyway. Season 2 is still really good. Passion and Becoming remain some of the most powerful TV moments I've seen. I'm looking forward even more to Season 3 though - I always thought it provided a better balance between the good and the bad than season 2. There's nothing quite as great as Passion in there, at least not along serious lines, but I think it's consistently more enjoyable. Plus, Faith. And more Oz.


DavidS - Jul 09, 2006 7:14:40 am PDT #3204 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The great episodes are greatest in context, and the not-great episodes are just so... well, not bad, because the dialogue and characters are consistently fantastic, but... silly.

That's why I like S3 best. The arc's not as perfect, but almost every episode is.


Polter-Cow - Jul 09, 2006 7:49:49 am PDT #3205 of 10464
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I am Hec on this matter.


Lee - Jul 09, 2006 8:24:26 am PDT #3206 of 10464
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I've been rewatching too, but I am about half way through season 7. it's such a shame, really, because the season started so damn well, and then Sleeper and every episode after that happened.


Volans - Jul 09, 2006 8:28:26 am PDT #3207 of 10464
move out and draw fire

One thing I was surprised at on rewatch is how quickly S2 happens. I don't know how, the first time around, I had totally committed to Angel so that I was freaked when he became Angelus. Now it seems abrupt. In my memory, Oz and Willow got together much later, and Jenny was around a lot longer.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 09, 2006 8:56:13 am PDT #3208 of 10464
What is even happening?

I came to BtVS in season 3, and was surprised by how little Jenny there was in seasons 1 and 2, once I finally got to watch them.

I've been rewatching too, but I am about half way through season 7. it's such a shame, really, because the season started so damn well, and then Sleeper and every episode after that happened.

Last summer, Scott and I set out to watch the entire run. We petered out mid-way through season 7, telling ourselves we needed a break, but never made it back. I have seasons of A:ts still in shrink wrap.


Narrator - Jul 09, 2006 10:01:51 am PDT #3209 of 10464
The evil is this way?

I came to BtVS in season 3, and was surprised by how little Jenny there was in seasons 1 and 2, once I finally got to watch them.

She was in more of Seasons 1 and 2 before Dawn. Once Dawn was introduced, the first 4 seasons were completely redone and a lot of Jenny's scenes were cut to make room for the Dawn scenes.

What?


Gris - Jul 09, 2006 10:28:30 am PDT #3210 of 10464
Hey. New board.

That reminds me of the fact that when Buffy: The Animated Series was last discussed, they were talking about setting it in high school, but with Dawn. Which I think is a cool idea.

I still REALLY want that show.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 09, 2006 10:29:55 am PDT #3211 of 10464
What is even happening?

She was in more of Seasons 1 and 2 before Dawn. Once Dawn was introduced, the first 4 seasons were completely redone and a lot of Jenny's scenes were cut to make room for the Dawn scenes.

What?

Pfffft. Like you were immune to the monks' spell.