Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?

'The Message'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 11:01:42 am PDT #3180 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I liked Pylea.

But, err...

I mean, I knew Plei was likely to like such-and-such to do with Wes, or Faith torturing someone

So, to be totally predictable, I really liked the interaction between Wes and Gunn in Pylea, and how it set up the complete and total breakdown of their deep and passionate love bonds of friendship and trust. (Where, I have come to realize, I kind of side with Gunn, actually. Weird, eh?)


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2006 11:17:18 am PDT #3181 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have come to realize, I kind of side with Gunn, actually. Weird, eh?

Heh. I seem to remember siding with Wesley, but I'd have to rewatch to be sure.

It might be a while.

Mark Lutz, YES. I feel it, and I think I may even have felt it when he was at the Angel party for which I ran security.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 11:48:27 am PDT #3182 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Heh. I seem to remember siding with Wesley, but I'd have to rewatch to be sure.

You know, I think I did at the time, but by the time I was sprawled on a hotel bed, all whisky'd up with Shrift on my lap and talking about it, my wee pointy brain was already finding the Gunn sympathy.

Not that I think in this particular case that Wes was at all wrong, I just see how, if you were in Gunn's position, it'd make you pull back some.


Gris - Jul 07, 2006 11:49:23 am PDT #3183 of 10464
Hey. New board.

I love Pylea. I agree it should have been the beginning of a season except OMG do I love the "There's no place like... Willow?" ending. Which requires having been in some Oz-ish place.


Lee - Jul 07, 2006 12:05:43 pm PDT #3184 of 10464
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was about to say what Plei did, only more focused on how it showed how babystealingWes might be possible, and not as well, so I'm glad I was late to the conversation.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 12:26:19 pm PDT #3185 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I was about to say what Plei did, only more focused on how it showed how babystealingWes might be possible, and not as well, so I'm glad I was late to the conversation.

Man, I totally need to rewatch Loyalty. It's on the writing laptop...

I mean, sure, I've probably seen it a dozen times, but still! It's been at least a year or two...


DavidS - Jul 07, 2006 12:33:50 pm PDT #3186 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but by the time I was sprawled on a hotel bed, all whisky'd up with Shrift on my lap

One of the great images in Western Culture. Plus bunny ears.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 12:35:33 pm PDT #3187 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

One of the great images in Western Culture. Plus bunny ears.

I think that remains the bestest picture of me EVAH!!!1!

The Shrift helps.


DavidS - Jul 07, 2006 12:41:58 pm PDT #3188 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think that remains the bestest picture of me EVAH!!!1!

It has indisputible greatness. But Ple's Best Pictures compromises a library full of albums. There's the pixie cut white-out face shot that I love so much. The gray top-hat series. The teen-Ple in bikini. The Boobies O' Doom. Vampire Willow Ple at Chicago F2F. That self-portraiture series with the drapey off the shoulder thingies, almost like Sargent's paintings.

The Shrift helps.

Oh yeah. We should all be so lucky as to have a Shrift in our laps at some point in our lives.


Connie Neil - Jul 07, 2006 12:50:12 pm PDT #3189 of 10464
brillig

I quite liked Pylea, especially for the revelation of Wes' skills as a leader, after Angel has obviously been taking over again upon his return to the fold. Also, Angel's happiness whiplash upon seeing exactly what it is that's lurking inside him.

I also quite liked The Girl In Question, but I know I'm a minority on that. Then again, in the later seasons, I was also tending more towards slapping Buffy silly and telling her to stop being so darned self-centered.