None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Jul 07, 2006 11:17:18 am PDT #3181 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have come to realize, I kind of side with Gunn, actually. Weird, eh?

Heh. I seem to remember siding with Wesley, but I'd have to rewatch to be sure.

It might be a while.

Mark Lutz, YES. I feel it, and I think I may even have felt it when he was at the Angel party for which I ran security.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 11:48:27 am PDT #3182 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Heh. I seem to remember siding with Wesley, but I'd have to rewatch to be sure.

You know, I think I did at the time, but by the time I was sprawled on a hotel bed, all whisky'd up with Shrift on my lap and talking about it, my wee pointy brain was already finding the Gunn sympathy.

Not that I think in this particular case that Wes was at all wrong, I just see how, if you were in Gunn's position, it'd make you pull back some.


Gris - Jul 07, 2006 11:49:23 am PDT #3183 of 10464
Hey. New board.

I love Pylea. I agree it should have been the beginning of a season except OMG do I love the "There's no place like... Willow?" ending. Which requires having been in some Oz-ish place.


Lee - Jul 07, 2006 12:05:43 pm PDT #3184 of 10464
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I was about to say what Plei did, only more focused on how it showed how babystealingWes might be possible, and not as well, so I'm glad I was late to the conversation.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 12:26:19 pm PDT #3185 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I was about to say what Plei did, only more focused on how it showed how babystealingWes might be possible, and not as well, so I'm glad I was late to the conversation.

Man, I totally need to rewatch Loyalty. It's on the writing laptop...

I mean, sure, I've probably seen it a dozen times, but still! It's been at least a year or two...


DavidS - Jul 07, 2006 12:33:50 pm PDT #3186 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but by the time I was sprawled on a hotel bed, all whisky'd up with Shrift on my lap

One of the great images in Western Culture. Plus bunny ears.


P.M. Marc - Jul 07, 2006 12:35:33 pm PDT #3187 of 10464
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

One of the great images in Western Culture. Plus bunny ears.

I think that remains the bestest picture of me EVAH!!!1!

The Shrift helps.


DavidS - Jul 07, 2006 12:41:58 pm PDT #3188 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think that remains the bestest picture of me EVAH!!!1!

It has indisputible greatness. But Ple's Best Pictures compromises a library full of albums. There's the pixie cut white-out face shot that I love so much. The gray top-hat series. The teen-Ple in bikini. The Boobies O' Doom. Vampire Willow Ple at Chicago F2F. That self-portraiture series with the drapey off the shoulder thingies, almost like Sargent's paintings.

The Shrift helps.

Oh yeah. We should all be so lucky as to have a Shrift in our laps at some point in our lives.


Connie Neil - Jul 07, 2006 12:50:12 pm PDT #3189 of 10464
brillig

I quite liked Pylea, especially for the revelation of Wes' skills as a leader, after Angel has obviously been taking over again upon his return to the fold. Also, Angel's happiness whiplash upon seeing exactly what it is that's lurking inside him.

I also quite liked The Girl In Question, but I know I'm a minority on that. Then again, in the later seasons, I was also tending more towards slapping Buffy silly and telling her to stop being so darned self-centered.


sumi - Jul 07, 2006 1:09:48 pm PDT #3190 of 10464
Art Crawl!!!

I think that the silliness in Angel is partially due to DB. DB didn't really get to show off his silly side when he was on Buffy.

I enjoyed the Pylea stuff at the time, wish they had done more with Wolf, Ram and Hart but don't find myself very inclined to rewatch the Pylea stuff.