What is your childhood trauma?

Cordelia ,'Lessons'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Got Life - Aug 26, 2005 4:27:37 am PDT #1975 of 10459
Life is eternal, Love is immortal, and death is only an illusion.

I believe Jack is Anthony Bourdain's middle name. Though I could be wrong. That I will then blame on the husband.

I saw a review he did of it and he liked what he saw.

I am very glad Nick is so happy and taking care of himself. I thought he was not used alot until the end of sixth season. And once again only spottingly in most of seventh. Alot of Spike scenes could have been Xander scenes. Should have been Xander scenes. Like the one in touched.


Vortex - Aug 26, 2005 7:04:51 am PDT #1976 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

True, but there are extremely petty people who would refrain from recommending a show if they knew that someone would be on it.

I mean, I know that Joss and I aren't close personal friends or anything, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would be like that. He might not recommend her for a role, but I don't think that he would dis a whole show just because an actor he had issues with/disliked was on it.


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2005 7:07:43 am PDT #1977 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Especially if she wasn't in what delighted him so.


Scrappy - Aug 28, 2005 9:01:35 am PDT #1978 of 10459
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

NB just wasn't up to doing more work in those latter seasons. They wanted to use him more but it wasn't feasible. I am glad he is back on his game and hope this new show is a success.


Got Life - Aug 28, 2005 10:49:01 am PDT #1979 of 10459
Life is eternal, Love is immortal, and death is only an illusion.

Okay rewatched Home.

Now does Conner belong like contractly to w&H?

I mean Angel did kill him, and they brought him back to life. So if they crumbled and were destroyed would Conner's contract be destroyed? OR like the signed shanshue is it all up in the air?


JoeCrow - Aug 28, 2005 12:55:48 pm PDT #1980 of 10459
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

I don't think Connor was, strictly speaking, under contract. His re-creation was part of the terms of Angel's contract, but contracts pretty much have to be consented to, and there's no way any version of Connor would have signed anything like the W&R contract. The rest of the crew, however, are pretty much damned, post-mortality. W&R contracts don't break, or burn, as Wesley demonstrated, and all of them were holding VP level positions or better. My guess is that only Wes and Angel actually know this, though. None of the rest of them seem like the sort to read the fine print.


brenda m - Aug 28, 2005 1:05:14 pm PDT #1981 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

His re-creation was part of the terms of Angel's contract, but contracts pretty much have to be consented to, and there's no way any version of Connor would have signed anything like the W&R contract.

And I don't think there's any way Angel didn't make Connor's free-lance status a condition of the deal.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 28, 2005 1:28:49 pm PDT #1982 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For that matter, I don't see any of his associate's positions, which were all contingent on him signing, involving more than the usual power corrupts-style risks to their souls if Angel had anything to say about terms.

The Big Broody, however, may be left hoping that he can outlive the Senior Partners if he doesn't want a replay of the end of "Becoming, Pt. 2" when he dies.


brenda m - Aug 28, 2005 2:01:11 pm PDT #1983 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

For that matter, I don't see any of his associate's positions, which were all contingent on him signing, involving more than the usual power corrupts-style risks to their souls if Angel had anything to say about terms.

I don't think he would deliberately go there, but his focus was so much on Connor at that point that I don't think that one's a given. He did choose on their behalf to make the deal and commence the mindwiping.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 28, 2005 2:12:11 pm PDT #1984 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I also don't think it would have just been up to Angel - doesn't seem to me that Wesley, Gunn, and Lorne could have leins on their souls from contracts that were signed while their minds were being messed with at Angel's request. They'd still have to willingly barter their souls away for authority, power, or bling.