That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


joe boucher - Aug 13, 2005 11:16:14 am PDT #1823 of 10458
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

For the rest of her life, she'll write stories of fucked up nubile teenage girls luring poor bad boys into the bear trap vagina of doom.

Some days you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you.

S6 had more problems than Spuffy, but killing Spike would have been a good start. Killing him in a Jenny Calendar way, that is, not a they-killed-Kenny way.


DavidS - Aug 13, 2005 11:19:43 am PDT #1824 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

S6 had more problems than Spuffy, but killing Spike would have been a good start. Killing him in a Jenny Calendar way, that is, not a they-killed-Kenny way.

If you killed Spike, who would make the most interesting story as his killer? Buffy? Willow? Xander? Drusilla? Angel? Faith?


Narrator - Aug 13, 2005 11:25:40 am PDT #1825 of 10458
The evil is this way?

Any of them would have been equally boring. The character outlived his usefulness and killing him would have been necessary, not interesting. Spike needed killing and the writers just wouldn't do it.


joe boucher - Aug 13, 2005 11:31:23 am PDT #1826 of 10458
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

The Sunnydale Poetry Slam runner-up. "Effulgent?! Bulge in 't?!! Arrggghhh!"<POOOF!!>


DavidS - Aug 13, 2005 11:36:15 am PDT #1827 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any of them would have been equally boring. The character outlived his usefulness and killing him would have been necessary, not interesting. Spike needed killing and the writers just wouldn't do it.

So blase, Narrator? It doesn't inspire any narrative intrigue at all?

The Sunnydale Poetry Slam runner-up.

Now see? That's entertainment.


Lee - Aug 13, 2005 11:36:51 am PDT #1828 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

If you killed Spike, who would make the most interesting story as his killer?

If it had been pre finding out about the attempted rape (while she still trusted him), I vote Dawn.

Throw in Dawn dies too, and they should film it and show it every Christmas.


Narrator - Aug 13, 2005 11:41:45 am PDT #1829 of 10458
The evil is this way?

So blase, Narrator? It doesn't inspire any narrative intrigue at all?

Yeah, and I'm sad about it, too. Because killing a character like that ought to be compelling and pull the narrative/character arcs/etc. forward. But I so didn't care about Spike by the end of the show that I didn't care if he lived, died (again) or opened an office supply store in Las Vegas. I suppose that Xander should have been the one to stake him -- that boy wanted to stake Angel and I guess, maybe, Spike would do. So, fine -- I choose Xander to stake Spike. Or to screw him. I dunno, whatever.


bon bon - Aug 13, 2005 12:02:50 pm PDT #1830 of 10458
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I wouldn't have minded a "Xander kills Spike and must hide his awful secret" storyline.


Narrator - Aug 13, 2005 12:05:46 pm PDT #1831 of 10458
The evil is this way?

Only if there's nudity.


Strega - Aug 13, 2005 12:17:08 pm PDT #1832 of 10458

I dimly remember there being foilers about Drusilla killing Spike at some point. That would have been funny. It was something like, at the end of the episode, Spike is talking to someone when he suddenly crumbles to dust, which reveals Dru standing behind him with a stake.