Wesley: Hey. Hey, Gunn. Is something weird going on? … Charles, you just peed on my shoes. Gunn: I'll be damned. That's weird.

'Life of the Party'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 08, 2005 10:17:44 am PDT #1739 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think I've blindspotted -- well, maybe Lindsey. But when my efforts to keep enjoying them as I like them most, I just shrug and say "Well, Spike up through season 4." I liked the bad stuff about the characters I like the most.

ita is me in this regard. Willow and Angel were my favorite characters, but I was fully aware of their (demonstrated) potential for ruthless cruelty and morally questionable decisions, and enjoyed watching them make mistakes. I suppose if one expanded the definition of blindspot to include characters that one completely does not get the appeal of, Andrew would be mine.

Spike and DisCordy were my big anti-blindspot characters, though a huge chunk of fandom was with me on the latter.


Vortex - Aug 08, 2005 1:51:59 pm PDT #1740 of 10464
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

First with the cruciamentum and second with siccing Principal Hottie on Spike.

I forgive the cruciementarium (or whatever it was) because he did the right thing in the end. And it made Buffy realize just how much she meant to Giles. "Your feelings for your charge are as a father's love for a child." I remember how Buffy's eyes got large as she realized that Giles had compromised everything that he (had) believed in for her. *sniff*

The Spike thing was . . . ill advised.

What blind spot?


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 2:43:28 pm PDT #1741 of 10464
Woe to the fucking wicked.

See, the Spike thing, to me, was after the "Who is this and what have they done with Giles"-ness. I just don't get the line that got him to there (as opposed to, say, Willow, who had an arc that made sense in where she ended up)


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 4:25:04 pm PDT #1742 of 10464
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Connor, however, would have been just fine had he been given soup and a hug instead of something real. Damn it.

Which is sort of born out by my very much liking Normal!Well-Adjusted!Connor, as one imagines N!W-A!Connor got plenty of soup and hugs growing up.

Psh. Souled Champion Vampires grow on trees. Can always get another one in a pinch.

BWAHAHAHA!

See, the Spike thing, to me, was after the "Who is this and what have they done with Giles"-ness. I just don't get the line that got him to there

I was really starting to buy into the the "It's actually Ethan" line after just a couple of episodes with Pod!Giles.


DavidS - Aug 08, 2005 5:24:59 pm PDT #1743 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See, the Spike thing, to me, was after the "Who is this and what have they done with Giles"-ness. I just don't get the line that got him to there

And yet...it was consistant with his characterization in "Helpless." Also the same Giles that killed Ben. Same Watcher training that had Wesley sending peons to their death in Pylea.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 5:26:59 pm PDT #1744 of 10464
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm racking my brains, and I have no idea what "the Spike thing" was. Someone refresh me? What season are we talking about?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 08, 2005 5:30:01 pm PDT #1745 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Decoying Buffy while in colusion with Principal Wood for the latter to set a trap for Spike?


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 5:30:32 pm PDT #1746 of 10464
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm racking my brains, and I have no idea what "the Spike thing" was.

The one Abi and I are talking about is actually about Giles' colluding with Principal McHottie to kill Spike.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 5:31:07 pm PDT #1747 of 10464
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh right...there's so much of S7 I don't remember. Probably for the best.


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 5:40:47 pm PDT #1748 of 10464
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Hec, that isn't the defining incident of my PodGiles characterization. It's just that it happens after it, and so, doesn't really fall under the same rules, to me.