Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
It's a cost issue. The CGI for vampface is expensive, and if the character isn't important, or you know that they are a vampire from the beginning, they didn't bother to spend the money.
Right, but that's meta, so I don't have to pay attention to that. In the story (which is told in a visual medium, so the pictures on the screen matter, the same way the words do), the miniony vamps are almost always in game face.
I don't have to pay attention to that
True, but what goes hand in hand with that is that you don't even have Occam's razor anymore -- you're stepping out of wank territory into fanfic. For instance, there's no reason to assume they're in vamp face when you can't see them, for example.
For instance, there's no reason to assume they're in vamp face when you can't see them, for example.Do you think that holds true, even since they're in vamp face (Dalton springs to mind) when nobody in their 'verse can see them, and/or even when they're not being seen and not seeing humans in their 'verse, and even when there doesn't seem to be a reason for it (i.e. hunger or fighting)?
Do you think that holds true
We have no information to contradict it. There could be reasons we know nothing about. Maybe it was that time of the month/day/week/year. Maybe there was a geographical rationale, maybe maybe maybe.
But I'm not trying to stop anyone else wanking. Just that there's a point where you step away into totaly hypothesising, and there are no checks and balances (kinda like trying to work out what's really happening on Lost).
I'm not sure I understand where the meta comes in. Is Willow really just gay because Seth Green wanted out of the series, then?
I'm not sure I understand where the meta comes in
Where the meta comes into what?
To me, a justification for why peripheral vamps are always in vamp face is along the lines of why you can see vampire breath condensed in certain scenes -- it slides right past my metafilter. I know the snake in that one episode didn't look ubercheesy to anyone in the episode -- meta made it look odd to us. I don't need to know why Angel and Spike look so much older now than they did beforehand -- metafilter.
To me, a justification for why peripheral vamps are always in vamp face is along the lines of why you can see vampire breath condensed in certain scenes -- it slides right past my metafilter.
Right, usually if they bothered with the morphing on a miniony-vamp, it was for dramatic effect.
Also, one of the main reasons for the "game face" was because Joss wanted it very clear to viewers that these were monsters Buffy was beating up and killing, not people. If random Joe Schmoe vamp is going to get staked before he has time to react to the fact the Slayer is even there, he's going to have to be wandering around in game face.
Yeah, no I was thinking more of recurrings, like Dalton. Or the episode where Harmony had minions.
The breathing meta is of a different sort to me. I do not need to be told the reason I can see the breath. I know on my own the actors are human, so it's more accessible meta for me, somehow. What decisions were made because of costs is different for me, because of the nature of it.
I don't think Darla talks about how siring works, beyond trying to instruct Shempy in how to do it.