Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

Riley ,'Sleeper'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 02, 2005 7:32:24 am PDT #1576 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

To me, a justification for why peripheral vamps are always in vamp face is along the lines of why you can see vampire breath condensed in certain scenes -- it slides right past my metafilter.

Right, usually if they bothered with the morphing on a miniony-vamp, it was for dramatic effect.


Kalshane - Aug 02, 2005 8:44:47 am PDT #1577 of 10458
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Also, one of the main reasons for the "game face" was because Joss wanted it very clear to viewers that these were monsters Buffy was beating up and killing, not people. If random Joe Schmoe vamp is going to get staked before he has time to react to the fact the Slayer is even there, he's going to have to be wandering around in game face.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 02, 2005 8:49:44 am PDT #1578 of 10458
What is even happening?

Yeah, no I was thinking more of recurrings, like Dalton. Or the episode where Harmony had minions.

The breathing meta is of a different sort to me. I do not need to be told the reason I can see the breath. I know on my own the actors are human, so it's more accessible meta for me, somehow. What decisions were made because of costs is different for me, because of the nature of it.


Strega - Aug 02, 2005 11:37:22 am PDT #1579 of 10458

I don't think Darla talks about how siring works, beyond trying to instruct Shempy in how to do it.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2005 11:38:53 am PDT #1580 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What decisions were made because of costs is different for me, because of the nature of it.

I'm firmly in the overthinking camp, because I do hypothesise things like cost as the show rolls along. Every effect dings a cash register in one part of my brain. Some things don't occur to me until they're mentioned, but avoiding the SFX of the vamp was something I figured on before hearing about it.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 02, 2005 11:47:06 am PDT #1581 of 10458
What is even happening?

Cost-wise for morphing, I can see that. But for a vamp like Dalton, it's not just that we didn't see him morph, we didn't see him in unbumpy face, ever. He were always bumpy faced (again and okay, Dalton's the only one I'm sure of, right now).


joe boucher - Aug 02, 2005 1:04:20 pm PDT #1582 of 10458
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Didn't the vamp face makeup take hours to put on (and take off)? I think that's what drove costs up. It's one thing to shoot 90% of the scene, yell Cut!, "David (or James/Julie/Juliet), get into/out of makeup," and then come back x hours later to finish shooting, but that's unlikely to happen for an everyday vamp unless it's critical to the scene.

As far as non-meta reasons for why newer vamps are scene w/ game face, I thought it was that they couldn't really control it yet, whereas a more experienced one, e.g., Spike or Angel, could use human face as another tool in his/her arsenal. Much easier to blend in -- whether for hunting or partying or picking someone up -- non-vamp mode. The Master, of course, had grown past the need. That part's canonical. The rest? Don't remember & don't have time to research it since I'm still at work.


Wolfram - Aug 03, 2005 11:35:39 am PDT #1583 of 10458
Visilurking

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Limited Edition Complete Series Box Set!

Thanks P-C! I'm one of those cheap patient people who prefers to wait until hell freezes over the entire series gets released before buying them.


-t - Aug 03, 2005 11:37:43 am PDT #1584 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Looks like you'll be saving money, Wolfram. I'm pretty sure it cost me $100 more than that to buy them piecemeal


brenda m - Aug 03, 2005 11:43:31 am PDT #1585 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, that's actually kind of appealing.