Does anybody mind if I pass out?

Willow ,'Beneath You'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Feb 18, 2026 6:08:27 pm PST #10651 of 10694
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Last night was double Buffy so that Ethan could watch OMWF, so tonight we had an AtS double bill of Billy and Offspring.

I referred to Billy as "the primordial misogyny episode" and Aeryn was surprised to hear Lilah use that phrase verbatim - they assumed it was a Buffista-ism. 😂

I love BitterPregnant!Darla so much.


Jessica - Feb 24, 2026 7:38:24 am PST #10652 of 10694
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Aeryn has dubbed Shahjan "the nonbinary demon from the Woke Dimension" since he (a) introduced himself to Holtz as "not a man but...masculine" and (b) can shapeshift.


Laura - Feb 24, 2026 8:23:17 am PST #10653 of 10694
Our wings are not tired.

Legit.


-t - Feb 24, 2026 8:41:02 am PST #10654 of 10694
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Like it


erikaj - Mar 01, 2026 2:24:53 pm PST #10655 of 10694
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Karl, I think Garner/ Hartley was my first 'ship ever. I guess it might have been good that, as a tiny chiquita, that I wasn't better at asking around school about whether those were, like, *exciting* to anyone else. Mom spent enough time at school explaining me as it was.


Jessica - Mar 03, 2026 6:44:29 pm PST #10656 of 10694
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As You Were: Aeryn recognized Riley's wife but failed to identify her as Diyoza from The 100. They then suggested that Sam also break up with Riley and move to Sunnydale to date Buffy, since all the men in Buffy's life are disappointing and unworthy. They have also suggested multiple times that Anya break up with Xander (and date Buffy) so if you are sensing a theme, you are correct.

(They have also made comments like "Wow, Tara is the only character on this show with a working moral compass" and speculated about what Tara's major is and what job she'll get when she graduates, and how Amber Benson really should be in the main credits, and UGGGGGH I'm glad they're still somehow unspoiled but it's going to be be devastating in a few more episodes and I don't know how to handle it.)

(They also said offhand "Spike needs to learn that no means no" after he talked Buffy into having sex with him against a tree outside her house instead of going inside to give Dawn her dinner, so yeah. Seeing Red is gonna be a rough one.)


Jessica - Mar 03, 2026 6:51:14 pm PST #10657 of 10694
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Loyalty: Most astute observation of the ep was: "Wesley if you overthink this prophecy it's going to be self-fulfilling" followed by "Wesley no!" and "Wesley do not DO NOT kidnap Angel's baby" at about five minute intervals.

The burger loa was enjoyed by all.

(Also enjoyed by all: the tiny hockey sticks and the baby sized "Connor" jersey. These shows really did influence all other television forever, huh.)


Kate P. - Mar 03, 2026 6:56:50 pm PST #10658 of 10694
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

We're on Season 4 and having a great time. Rose's favorite character is Spike and so naturally "Pangs" followed by "Something Blue" was just delightful. Spike tied to the chair, pierced by numerous arrows and absolutely over it, will never not be funny. And tonight is "Hush"! I'm eager to see if she picks up on the Willow/Tara vibes right away.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2026 7:19:46 pm PST #10659 of 10694
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and UGGGGGH I'm glad they're still somehow unspoiled but it's going to be be devastating in a few more episodes and I don't know how to handle it.)

Ooof!

(They also said offhand "Spike needs to learn that no means no" after he talked Buffy into having sex with him against a tree

Also, oof!

You might need a whole sidebar on the Kittenboard and the Dead Lesbian Trope.


Jessica - Mar 06, 2026 6:17:29 am PST #10660 of 10694
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Last night was the double-whammy of Hell's Bells and Sleep Tight, so Aeryn is pretty damn pissed at both Xander and Wesley today for being stupid dummies who make bad choices. (They've been wanting Xander and Anya to break up for AGES, but wanted it to be Anya's choice.)

(You guys I'm so excited for Teenage Connor to show up in a few eps.)