Simon: I swear when it's appropriate. Kaylee: Simon, the whole point of swearing is that it ain't appropriate.

'Jaynestown'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Mar 03, 2026 6:44:29 pm PST #10656 of 10707
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As You Were: Aeryn recognized Riley's wife but failed to identify her as Diyoza from The 100. They then suggested that Sam also break up with Riley and move to Sunnydale to date Buffy, since all the men in Buffy's life are disappointing and unworthy. They have also suggested multiple times that Anya break up with Xander (and date Buffy) so if you are sensing a theme, you are correct.

(They have also made comments like "Wow, Tara is the only character on this show with a working moral compass" and speculated about what Tara's major is and what job she'll get when she graduates, and how Amber Benson really should be in the main credits, and UGGGGGH I'm glad they're still somehow unspoiled but it's going to be be devastating in a few more episodes and I don't know how to handle it.)

(They also said offhand "Spike needs to learn that no means no" after he talked Buffy into having sex with him against a tree outside her house instead of going inside to give Dawn her dinner, so yeah. Seeing Red is gonna be a rough one.)


Jessica - Mar 03, 2026 6:51:14 pm PST #10657 of 10707
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Loyalty: Most astute observation of the ep was: "Wesley if you overthink this prophecy it's going to be self-fulfilling" followed by "Wesley no!" and "Wesley do not DO NOT kidnap Angel's baby" at about five minute intervals.

The burger loa was enjoyed by all.

(Also enjoyed by all: the tiny hockey sticks and the baby sized "Connor" jersey. These shows really did influence all other television forever, huh.)


Kate P. - Mar 03, 2026 6:56:50 pm PST #10658 of 10707
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

We're on Season 4 and having a great time. Rose's favorite character is Spike and so naturally "Pangs" followed by "Something Blue" was just delightful. Spike tied to the chair, pierced by numerous arrows and absolutely over it, will never not be funny. And tonight is "Hush"! I'm eager to see if she picks up on the Willow/Tara vibes right away.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2026 7:19:46 pm PST #10659 of 10707
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and UGGGGGH I'm glad they're still somehow unspoiled but it's going to be be devastating in a few more episodes and I don't know how to handle it.)

Ooof!

(They also said offhand "Spike needs to learn that no means no" after he talked Buffy into having sex with him against a tree

Also, oof!

You might need a whole sidebar on the Kittenboard and the Dead Lesbian Trope.


Jessica - Mar 06, 2026 6:17:29 am PST #10660 of 10707
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Last night was the double-whammy of Hell's Bells and Sleep Tight, so Aeryn is pretty damn pissed at both Xander and Wesley today for being stupid dummies who make bad choices. (They've been wanting Xander and Anya to break up for AGES, but wanted it to be Anya's choice.)

(You guys I'm so excited for Teenage Connor to show up in a few eps.)


-t - Mar 06, 2026 8:02:51 am PST #10661 of 10707
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I am so enjoying Aeryn having such correct opinions about everything!


Jessica - Mar 08, 2026 4:51:34 pm PDT #10662 of 10707
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh god you guys....at dinner tonight Aeryn said "Everyone is having a terrible time. Except for Willow and Tara! Lesbians, always winning."

I don't want to make them watch Seeing Red. It's going to be so awful. But here we go.


-t - Mar 08, 2026 7:28:06 pm PDT #10663 of 10707
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

::cries::


Laura - Mar 09, 2026 8:34:27 am PDT #10664 of 10707
Our wings are not tired.

Oh that is going to be so painful.


Jessica - Mar 09, 2026 9:33:44 am PDT #10665 of 10707
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As expected, that was horrible and painful to watch. I'd honestly forgotten how much of that episode is joyful reconciliation, and how needlessly cruel this episode is in that regard.

Aeryn wants Willow to kill Warren, so at least we know that payoff is coming!

(And Spike's off to get a soul, tra la la.)

AtS, OTOH, has finally gifted us with the woobie to end all woobies, my most precious of precious babies, Teen Connor. Welcome back, Connor, and thank you for solving the ever-present problem of "how do we move the plot forward without the inconvenience of having a baby on set all the time."