I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 10, 2021 7:07:46 pm PST #10372 of 10457
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Brenda, back in the day I was a real SMG defender for that- you don’t owe your director or the fans anything but a good job being Buffy. It really got up my nose. Now , again, such a different light.

I would love to hear words of support from the men, even if it is “I didn’t see it at the time , but I support my fellow actors”.

Self reflectively, this brings out separating art from the artist. It is pretty easy for me to just not watch Woody Allen movies, because I actually just don’t like Woody Allen movies. But Buffy is still important to me- Buffy herself and the show and the community we have created around it through all these years. Honestly, I think we take our cue from SMG who says she is still proud of being Buffy. And when I think with somewhat shame that I sent him a baby sweater for his first baby, I also think that the baby still exists, and I am not ashamed of sending a sweater to that baby, and his ex still exists, and we took great care on matching her aesthetic when we did it.


smonster - Feb 10, 2021 7:17:41 pm PST #10373 of 10457
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Of all the dudes, AFAIK, only Clem has spoken in support. [link]


Sophia Brooks - Feb 10, 2021 7:21:11 pm PST #10374 of 10457
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thank you for showcasing Clem (James C. Leary). I didn’t even know his name before this, but I will now he on the lookout for anything he is in, which I think is what we can do.


brenda m - Feb 10, 2021 7:54:27 pm PST #10375 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I saw Bryan Fuller made a strong statement of support (eta: for Charisma et al). Very sorry but not surprised enough that those closer to the situation aren’t stepping up.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 10, 2021 8:27:23 pm PST #10376 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Marsters did talk about Joss raging at him over Spike's popularity a few years ago. But he's also been one of Joss' defenders in the past, so maybe he thought it better to just remain silent.

I hope Anthony Stewart Head just hasn't heard about this all boiling over yet.


JZ - Feb 10, 2021 8:59:24 pm PST #10377 of 10457
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I hope Anthony Stewart Head just hasn't heard about this all boiling over yet.

I don't know about other social media platforms, but it doesn't look like he's been on Twitter for a couple of days, so maybe? I'm desperately hoping.


Hil R. - Feb 10, 2021 10:31:42 pm PST #10378 of 10457
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Anthony Stewart Head has just so genuinely seemed to be a decent guy in other situations, that I'm really hoping he'll support his castmates on this one.

As far as I can tell, no comment on anything from Alyson Hannigan or Alexis Denisof.


chrismg - Feb 11, 2021 9:13:24 am PST #10379 of 10457
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Ugh. It's seriously bumming me out that all this ugliness was happening and we never knew. Agree with Sophia that I hope the male actors speak out in support.

I don't think I'll have a problem rewatching the shows - it's a collaborative work and Joss was only a part of it. The commentary tracks he did were my favorites though - I don't know if I'll be able to listen to them again.

Have Amy Acker or Eliza Dushku made a statement? I know they kept working with Joss and Mutant Enemy after Buffy/Angel ended.


juliana - Feb 11, 2021 9:19:12 am PST #10380 of 10457
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

ASH and DeKnight have spoken up in support: [link]


Atropa - Feb 11, 2021 11:56:09 am PST #10381 of 10457
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Dark humor, but The Midnight Society on twitter made me choke on my tea: [link]