Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 10, 2021 3:15:07 pm PST #10371 of 10457
What is even happening?

Nope. Like, I'd like to see Jane and Marti speak out (Marti did eventually say something about Matt Weiner, when his #MeToo story was out there, so she may well), but I'm sick of people asking women about men who were bad to women. Let's hear from the other men.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 10, 2021 7:07:46 pm PST #10372 of 10457
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Brenda, back in the day I was a real SMG defender for that- you don’t owe your director or the fans anything but a good job being Buffy. It really got up my nose. Now , again, such a different light.

I would love to hear words of support from the men, even if it is “I didn’t see it at the time , but I support my fellow actors”.

Self reflectively, this brings out separating art from the artist. It is pretty easy for me to just not watch Woody Allen movies, because I actually just don’t like Woody Allen movies. But Buffy is still important to me- Buffy herself and the show and the community we have created around it through all these years. Honestly, I think we take our cue from SMG who says she is still proud of being Buffy. And when I think with somewhat shame that I sent him a baby sweater for his first baby, I also think that the baby still exists, and I am not ashamed of sending a sweater to that baby, and his ex still exists, and we took great care on matching her aesthetic when we did it.


smonster - Feb 10, 2021 7:17:41 pm PST #10373 of 10457
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Of all the dudes, AFAIK, only Clem has spoken in support. [link]


Sophia Brooks - Feb 10, 2021 7:21:11 pm PST #10374 of 10457
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thank you for showcasing Clem (James C. Leary). I didn’t even know his name before this, but I will now he on the lookout for anything he is in, which I think is what we can do.


brenda m - Feb 10, 2021 7:54:27 pm PST #10375 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I saw Bryan Fuller made a strong statement of support (eta: for Charisma et al). Very sorry but not surprised enough that those closer to the situation aren’t stepping up.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 10, 2021 8:27:23 pm PST #10376 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Marsters did talk about Joss raging at him over Spike's popularity a few years ago. But he's also been one of Joss' defenders in the past, so maybe he thought it better to just remain silent.

I hope Anthony Stewart Head just hasn't heard about this all boiling over yet.


JZ - Feb 10, 2021 8:59:24 pm PST #10377 of 10457
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I hope Anthony Stewart Head just hasn't heard about this all boiling over yet.

I don't know about other social media platforms, but it doesn't look like he's been on Twitter for a couple of days, so maybe? I'm desperately hoping.


Hil R. - Feb 10, 2021 10:31:42 pm PST #10378 of 10457
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Anthony Stewart Head has just so genuinely seemed to be a decent guy in other situations, that I'm really hoping he'll support his castmates on this one.

As far as I can tell, no comment on anything from Alyson Hannigan or Alexis Denisof.


chrismg - Feb 11, 2021 9:13:24 am PST #10379 of 10457
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Ugh. It's seriously bumming me out that all this ugliness was happening and we never knew. Agree with Sophia that I hope the male actors speak out in support.

I don't think I'll have a problem rewatching the shows - it's a collaborative work and Joss was only a part of it. The commentary tracks he did were my favorites though - I don't know if I'll be able to listen to them again.

Have Amy Acker or Eliza Dushku made a statement? I know they kept working with Joss and Mutant Enemy after Buffy/Angel ended.


juliana - Feb 11, 2021 9:19:12 am PST #10380 of 10457
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

ASH and DeKnight have spoken up in support: [link]