I'm just waiting to see if I pass out. Long story.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 20, 2018 6:30:55 pm PDT #10260 of 10459
What is even happening?

Yeah, I think I said that. At least I meant to. I am all in for a black slayer and the showrunner is a woman of color. Those things are great. Remaking Buffy isn't.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 21, 2018 11:02:19 pm PDT #10261 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I feel the same. It's too soon for a full-on remake. Revisiting the setting with a continuation, a prequel, or unrelated stories playing in the same sandbox would be just fine. But I'm not ready for an actual Buffy TV show where it's not SMG and Tony Head as those characters.


erikaj - Jul 22, 2018 10:49:27 am PDT #10262 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

I wish sometimes I were still Crossover Girl because I'd love to put Nicki in the world of The Deuce. You know, if the world weren't on fire.


Vortex - Jul 22, 2018 11:23:29 am PDT #10263 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Here's how they could make it work -- Scene of black woman in labor with a chiron that says "2003". Cut to flashback scene of the spell/Buffy's speech from "Chosen". As the spell hits, the baby is born. They give the baby to the mom, and say "What's her name?" Mom says "Buffy".

Cut to scene of young black woman getting out of the car in front of a college dorm in Cleveland with a chiron that says "present day". Mom from before (with some age lines and a grey wig) also gets out of the car.

And voila! New Buffy in college on a hellmouth!


-t - Jul 22, 2018 11:41:35 am PDT #10264 of 10459
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yep, that would certainly work.

The prospective for the "reboot" has already gotten so much better than when I first heard about it, I'm cautiously optimistic that whatever ends up on screen may very well please me.


DavidS - Jul 22, 2018 11:47:51 am PDT #10265 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My gut feeling is that they will do a reboot/reimagining.

Our new black Buffy will be First Of Her Name. She will have a Giles and a Willow and a Xander and one of them will be gay, and maybe her watcher is a woman etc.

In a way they could do it like the Dini animated version of Batman which just cherry picked the best stories and smoothed them out into one timeline. And this way they could correct some of the bigger mistakes such as Spike's rape attempt, or Dead Lesbian Trope, or Willow's power grab equated with addiction.

I think the interesting angle is that you could find the metaphorical angle on black experience in America as Hell in the same way OG Buffy explored High school as Hell.


meara - Jul 22, 2018 11:58:03 am PDT #10266 of 10459

Vortex, I like your plan!

I think the interesting angle is that you could find the metaphorical angle on black experience in America as Hell in the same way OG Buffy explored High school as Hell.

Certainly very possible


Jessica - Aug 03, 2018 7:16:51 am PDT #10267 of 10459
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DB says Buffy reboot sounds great, ok with him to recast Angel


Topic!Cindy - Aug 03, 2018 3:40:38 pm PDT #10268 of 10459
What is even happening?

Maxium Hairloaf:

In fact, unlike Buffy fans, the actor doesn't sound perturbed at the notion of someone else donning's Angel's signature leather jacket, should that be the direction Owusu-Breen chooses to go. "[Angel] doesn't age, so it's not like he's not around! Whatever they want to do with the character, it's such a wide, huge universe, you can really go anywhere with characters. I think the storylines will somehow reflect what the characters were about in the past. It's all bloodline, so to speak. Ironic that I called it that! There's always a bloodline somewhere, right?"


quester - Nov 19, 2018 2:48:34 pm PST #10269 of 10459
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Been rewatching Angel for the first time since the initial showing. I forgot how much I love the show theme music.