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tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 11:48:58 am PST #6485 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

Yeah, off the top of my head I can't think if they've hinted at this before.

Maybe "suicidal" isn't the best word... but something similar, when you should be fighting for your life, but it's easier to just give up. Like a depressed rat that drowns more quickly than a well-adjusted rat.


Katie M - Jan 14, 2006 11:53:53 am PST #6486 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I think he was supposed to be upset that his father and Roslin had agreed on an assassination. There is nothing pure left in the world oh woe! Etc. etc.


Nutty - Jan 14, 2006 11:56:34 am PST #6487 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

Maybe he is having an existential crisis brought on by deep space. I expect him to turn into a Reaver at any moment.

What? I think he would look good in a beret.


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 11:57:02 am PST #6488 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think he was supposed to be upset that his father and Roslin had agreed on an assassination. There is nothing pure left in the world oh woe! Etc. etc.

I think that's the best explanation (unless we're missing something). He is/was pretty idealistic about government.

very late edit to show what I'm responding to....


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 11:59:10 am PST #6489 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe he is having an existential crisis brought on by deep space.

... Space... Madness!!!

edit - the whole R&S Space Madness thing is just so funny:

...I'll just lie back and think pleasant thoughts. Chicken pot pie... Chocolate covered RAIsins... EEGlazed Hammmmm... They think I'm crazy... But I know better... It is not I who am crazy... It is I who am MAD!... Didn't you hear 'em? Didn't you see the crowds?!! Oh my beloved ice cream bar... How I love to lick your creamy center... eeyaaarghruch... eeyaarghrunch... eeyaarghrunch... And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering... You're not like the others... You like the same things I do... Wax paper... Boiled football leather... Dog breath... WE'RE NOT HITCHHIKING ANYMORE... WE'RE RIDING...


DebetEsse - Jan 14, 2006 12:12:06 pm PST #6490 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

You could also read it as something like "he's tired". I mean, as Galactica CAG, he's had one thing after another to deal with. And, while perhaps not suicidal, the efffort required to stay alive at that point, just to have to recover and deal with more of the same (or worse) didn't seem worth it.

And someone really needs to explain to Kara about the stuff Caine did.

t insert standard "why can the good guys never communicate?" gripe


Emily - Jan 14, 2006 12:55:52 pm PST #6491 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

The thing about John Doe was that they had him know about so many different things, they greatly increased the number of people who might watch and go, "Okay, hell no." And, I'll be honest, a show getting something I know about blatantly, embarrassingly wrong does interfere with my enjoyment of the plot. I try not to let it, but it does.


Laura - Jan 14, 2006 1:00:55 pm PST #6492 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

At the time it didn't seem to me that Lee was actively suicidal so much as tired and thinking just letting go was not such a bad option. Not making an effort to end life, but not making an effort to stay alive either. Given the choices at that moment in time it wasn't so appealing to go back to his fracked up world.

As for D hanging outside the door I thought she was seeking an explanation to why Lee didn't answer her calls when he should have been able to respond.

insert standard "why can the good guys never communicate?" gripe

Yes, that. Maybe they will communicate better next week. t hopeless optimist


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 1:07:32 pm PST #6493 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

In the podcast, Moore says that there was a scene with Lee and D that was cut (that was before the D spying scene, I think). Also, some spoilery stuff that makes the scene we did see make more sense.


dcp - Jan 14, 2006 1:07:47 pm PST #6494 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

but something similar, when you should be fighting for your life, but it's easier to just give up.

Despairing? Despondent?