The scene of Apollo watching the battle while floating in space was evocative of the Battle of Midway, in which a US Navy torpedo bomber pilot was shot down during an unsuccessfull attack on the Japanese carriers. Minutes later, as he floated in the water he had a front-row view as US Navy dive bombers destroyed three of the four Japanese carriers

He talks about this on the podcast.

That and Fastlame were two bad Fox Friday shows to which I was exposed (mostly, commercials) while seeking out good SF.

see, i liked both of them. though i liked Fastlane more than John Doe. i've found that i don't have to be crazy fandom obsessed with all the shows i watch. i can like and watch them without any expectations other than filling an hour with some mindless entertainment.

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

(on edit: I saw that he was suicidal. I just don't get why.)

Then I thought, "Is D in love with him?"

I thought this was what they were hinting at. Something about the way she was standing, I guess, like she wanted to be comforting him.

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

Yeah, off the top of my head I can't think if they've hinted at this before.

Maybe "suicidal" isn't the best word... but something similar, when you should be fighting for your life, but it's easier to just give up. Like a depressed rat that drowns more quickly than a well-adjusted rat.

I think he was supposed to be upset that his father and Roslin had agreed on an assassination. There is nothing pure left in the world oh woe! Etc. etc.

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

Maybe he is having an existential crisis brought on by deep space. I expect him to turn into a Reaver at any moment.

What? I think he would look good in a beret.

I think he was supposed to be upset that his father and Roslin had agreed on an assassination. There is nothing pure left in the world oh woe! Etc. etc.

I think that's the best explanation (unless we're missing something). He is/was pretty idealistic about government.

very late edit to show what I'm responding to....

Maybe he is having an existential crisis brought on by deep space.

... Space... Madness!!!

edit - the whole R&S Space Madness thing is just so funny:

...I'll just lie back and think pleasant thoughts. Chicken pot pie... Chocolate covered RAIsins... EEGlazed Hammmmm... They think I'm crazy... But I know better... It is not I who am crazy... It is I who am MAD!... Didn't you hear 'em? Didn't you see the crowds?!! Oh my beloved ice cream bar... How I love to lick your creamy center... eeyaaarghruch... eeyaarghrunch... eeyaarghrunch... And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering... You're not like the others... You like the same things I do... Wax paper... Boiled football leather... Dog breath... WE'RE NOT HITCHHIKING ANYMORE... WE'RE RIDING...

You could also read it as something like "he's tired". I mean, as Galactica CAG, he's had one thing after another to deal with. And, while perhaps not suicidal, the efffort required to stay alive at that point, just to have to recover and deal with more of the same (or worse) didn't seem worth it.

And someone really needs to explain to Kara about the stuff Caine did.

t insert standard "why can the good guys never communicate?" gripe

The thing about John Doe was that they had him know about so many different things, they greatly increased the number of people who might watch and go, "Okay, hell no." And, I'll be honest, a show getting something I know about blatantly, embarrassingly wrong does interfere with my enjoyment of the plot. I try not to let it, but it does.