Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 10:02:41 am PST #6476 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't think anyone's commented on Duala spying on Apollo and Starbuck... when I first saw that, I was thinking, "Do we really need even more intrigue at this point?" Then I thought, "Is D in love with him?" Then I remembered something from a Moore podcast - he said that D has a special relationship with all the pilots, as she's their connection to Galactica when they're in battle, etc. So maybe it's just that. Or maybe she's been put in charge of screening the pilots for depression, so they can administer the Space Prozac.


Jessica - Jan 14, 2006 10:18:42 am PST #6477 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

So, finally got around to watching SGA...about two minutes into the pastoral society, I turned to DH and said "It's a Monster from the ID!" Kind of disappointed to be proved right.

I want Roslin to live, but I don't think she should.


Anne W. - Jan 14, 2006 10:30:53 am PST #6478 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I don't think anyone's commented on Duala spying on Apollo and Starbuck...

That was interesting. I wondered if one of them was going to say something about the assassination plan that would then get out, making people think that Starbuck really was the one who killed Cain after all.


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 10:39:22 am PST #6479 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I wondered if one of them was going to say something about the assassination plan that would then get out, making people think that Starbuck really was the one who killed Cain after all.

Oh yeah, that crossed my mind too.

Am rewatching. Prettiest. Space. Battle. Evah! And something else struck me - Moore is a big fan of US Navy history, protocol etc. The scene of Apollo watching the battle while floating in space was evocative of the Battle of Midway, in which a US Navy torpedo bomber pilot was shot down during an unsuccessfull attack on the Japanese carriers. Minutes later, as he floated in the water he had a front-row view as US Navy dive bombers destroyed three of the four Japanese carriers (the fourth was destroyed later in the day). Of course, that particular pilot wasn't suicidal at the time. (He was the only survivor of the 30 or so men in his squadron.)


tiggy - Jan 14, 2006 10:46:46 am PST #6480 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

did we know that SciFi bought the rights to air John Doe? i just saw a commercial for it. the season premiere is airing this coming friday a 7/6 CST.


Nutty - Jan 14, 2006 10:49:25 am PST #6481 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

All I remember about that show is Allyson calling it John D'oh!

And that it was bad. That and Fastlame were two bad Fox Friday shows to which I was exposed (mostly, commercials) while seeking out good SF. The things we endure!


Jessica - Jan 14, 2006 11:01:17 am PST #6482 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The scene of Apollo watching the battle while floating in space was evocative of the Battle of Midway, in which a US Navy torpedo bomber pilot was shot down during an unsuccessfull attack on the Japanese carriers. Minutes later, as he floated in the water he had a front-row view as US Navy dive bombers destroyed three of the four Japanese carriers

He talks about this on the podcast.


tiggy - Jan 14, 2006 11:26:08 am PST #6483 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

That and Fastlame were two bad Fox Friday shows to which I was exposed (mostly, commercials) while seeking out good SF.

see, i liked both of them. though i liked Fastlane more than John Doe. i've found that i don't have to be crazy fandom obsessed with all the shows i watch. i can like and watch them without any expectations other than filling an hour with some mindless entertainment.


Stephanie - Jan 14, 2006 11:40:09 am PST #6484 of 10001
Trust my rage

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

(on edit: I saw that he was suicidal. I just don't get why.)

Then I thought, "Is D in love with him?"

I thought this was what they were hinting at. Something about the way she was standing, I guess, like she wanted to be comforting him.


tommyrot - Jan 14, 2006 11:48:58 am PST #6485 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Why is Apollo feeling suicidal? I missed where that came from.

Yeah, off the top of my head I can't think if they've hinted at this before.

Maybe "suicidal" isn't the best word... but something similar, when you should be fighting for your life, but it's easier to just give up. Like a depressed rat that drowns more quickly than a well-adjusted rat.