We watched Creature Comforts (on BBCA) right after BSG, which was a palate cleanser that I quite recommend....
No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.
Riley ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Theodosia - Jan 07, 2006 7:41:18 am PST #6191 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Emily - Jan 07, 2006 8:16:55 am PST #6192 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
I don't hate the Jaffa.
I don't hate them either, I just find them boring. I want to like them, I do -- and I like Teal'c, and I love Bra'tac. It's just that -- like pretty much all the alien races, I'm now realizing -- we never see them having any sense of humor unless they're interacting with humans. Why is that? Teal'c and Bra'tac have excellent senses of humor, but their dialogue with other Jaffa is all "We, we men of honor, doing serious and honorable things, speak with the seriousness of our noble ancestors (the Goa'uld's murderous thugs, that is, but don't get me started on that) and use no contractions, that we may show ourselves to be more serious."
Beverly - Jan 07, 2006 8:29:41 am PST #6193 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
"Indeed." (I incline my head to give emphasis to my speech.)
Jessica - Jan 07, 2006 9:27:57 am PST #6194 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
"Clowns? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too--entire armies spilling out of Volkswagens. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending them in."
That was a fantastic line.
Teal'c and Bra'tac have excellent senses of humor, but their dialogue with other Jaffa is all "We, we men of honor, doing serious and honorable things, speak with the seriousness of our noble ancestors (the Goa'uld's murderous thugs, that is, but don't get me started on that) and use no contractions, that we may show ourselves to be more serious."
Yup. I like individual Jaffa, but their overall storyline is blah.
Nutty - Jan 07, 2006 9:30:08 am PST #6195 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I have a silly BSG question: what is the point of assassinating a leader if you're not sure how his followers will react? I think that's a stupid plan for both people.
Because, okay, Michelle Forbes clearly thinks she has a perfect handle on her people, and the Commander thinks his people are loyal to him (and more to the point, loathe Michelle Forbes). So, given that these hundreds of soldiers with guns have already had the opportunity to point them at each other, what makes either leadership think that its counterpart army will just quietly accept a violent takeover?
And, if you're gonna have a riot (to say nothing of a full-scale rebellion), do you really want a riot performed by people with combat training, who have access to lots of weapons? That way lies expensive CGI and flames, I think.
I think those plans needed a lot more forethought, and a lot more people (especially on Michelle Forbes's side). Doesn't anybody watch Crimson Tide any more?? The little yappy dog in that movie could come up with a better plan!
Jessica - Jan 07, 2006 9:33:38 am PST #6196 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Cain thinks that Adama's people are weak and will follow her. Adama thinks that Cain's people are oppressed and unhappy and will follow him.
And at this point, I think they're both so worried (and quite reasonably so) that the other is going to assasinate them that they can't wait for a better plan to emerge, they have to do it now.
Nutty - Jan 07, 2006 9:44:31 am PST #6197 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Cain thinks that Adama's people are weak and will follow her. Adama thinks that Cain's people are oppressed and unhappy and will follow him.
Both of those people need to be kicked in the butt by a psychologist. Also possibly a tactician, and after that the line starts with the people who are being sent in on an assassination mission without anything resembling an escape plan afterwards.
There are so many ways that the assassination plans are dumb -- where to start! Rafik al-Hariri is smirking in his grave.
Jessica - Jan 07, 2006 10:02:22 am PST #6198 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
What I find interesting about that last scene is that Cain, who's been painted as the evil hardass, uses the euphemism "relieve Adama of his command," while Adama, the kind paternal commander, is the one to spell out "shoot Admiral Cain in the head."
I think Starbuck has the better mission here -- Adama knows that Cain's current XO was promoted via her killing the last one, so at least on Pegasus, shooting someone in the head has precedent as a method for demoting them.
Dana - Jan 07, 2006 10:16:23 am PST #6199 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
The clown reference logic going: He's referencing Send in the Clowns! It's from a musical! John must watch musicals! Therefore he's gay!
Oh, no. No misusing the Sondheim like that. Just...no.
DXMachina - Jan 07, 2006 10:16:36 am PST #6200 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
What I find interesting about that last scene is that Cain, who's been painted as the evil hardass, uses the euphemism "relieve Adama of his command,"
Didn't she say "terminate Adama's command"? Still a euphemism, but a lot clearer as to intent.