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Jars--
this was a really good show case for JF. But some oft he ancient stuff bothered me. I thought the ending was way to abrupt -- Iknow John had been there for months but it just seemed like...I dunno too pat. Plus that guy's soul patch little not a beard thing distracted me highly. Loved John in the meditation scenes, I've only tried meditation a few times and that was pretty much my reaction. Could have totally done without the "I've seen since I was a child we'd have teh sex so i've been saving myself!" JF was very solid. The other little moments I liked were: Ronan's slight tactless ness at the end, Teyla figuring out the time ratio and plus she was there and even if Rodney didn't figure out she was on the same wave lenght about supplies and stuff he ended up sort of getting it. And if it wasn't a spoiler I'd make "MALP on a stick!" my tagline.
Kalshane, I think Roddenberry's idea was to have a captain after the fall of the Federation, trying to put it back together -- it was a Trek series in his head.
I wonder which species caused the fall, in the Trek world? Vulcans? Some group focussed on perfection.
After Enterprise, I think the Vulcans have suffered enough.
I wonder which species caused the fall, in the Trek world? Vulcans?
Pon Farr got out of hand?
Pon Farr got out of hand?
Actually, it was a very not-out-of-hand thing. Cold, calculated, extensive betrayal.
Maybe if somehow they'd come to trust the Romulans...
That actually would have been an interesting premise for a Trek show. At least then you wouldn't have had the Enterprise problem of (in addition to sucking most of the time) destroying continuity.
The Romulan idea is a good one, and could lead off from the Reunification plotline from the Next Gen universe. Maybe Reunification finally happens, and the Romulans slowly bring the Vulcans around to a point of view that results in the fall of the Federation.
ETA: I'm wondering why they didn't go that route. I know that a lot of the reason Trek has been lacking in new ideas the last decade is because Paramount wants to do everything through Brannon and Braga, rather than having to pony up the bucks to pay someone else for their ideas. I'm not sure of the exact logistics, but it's one of the reasons there's no possibility of Peter David's New Frontier books being made into a series, because then they'd have to pay him big bucks for creating it, or some such.
Maybe if somehow they'd come to trust the Romulans...
The way they did the Klingons?
The way they did the Klingons?
I'm missing something. I'm not sure where you're going with that.
The Federation (at least in TNG and DS9) already trusts the Klingons, so you wouldn't even need to get the Romulans involved.
I can't see the Klingons pulling off what the Nietzscheans did, though -- despite the headstrong nature of the Nietzscheans, they have a clear unified purpose. That's why I thought more of Romulans or Vulcans--more capable of long term planning, etc.
With the Federation as we left it, I prefer the Vulcan odds at taking it down.
