askye -
I was a bit 'meh' on the episode as a whole. Everyone was just a bit too dense. Hewlett and Flanigan did both get some great scenes though, especially poor McKay stressing over his lost boyfriend.
Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.
'Same Time, Same Place'
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Jars - Dec 02, 2005 6:06:21 am PST #5525 of 10001
askye - Dec 02, 2005 6:14:41 am PST #5526 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
Jars--
this was a really good show case for JF. But some oft he ancient stuff bothered me. I thought the ending was way to abrupt -- Iknow John had been there for months but it just seemed like...I dunno too pat. Plus that guy's soul patch little not a beard thing distracted me highly. Loved John in the meditation scenes, I've only tried meditation a few times and that was pretty much my reaction. Could have totally done without the "I've seen since I was a child we'd have teh sex so i've been saving myself!" JF was very solid. The other little moments I liked were: Ronan's slight tactless ness at the end, Teyla figuring out the time ratio and plus she was there and even if Rodney didn't figure out she was on the same wave lenght about supplies and stuff he ended up sort of getting it. And if it wasn't a spoiler I'd make "MALP on a stick!" my tagline.
§ ita § - Dec 02, 2005 6:26:09 am PST #5527 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Kalshane, I think Roddenberry's idea was to have a captain after the fall of the Federation, trying to put it back together -- it was a Trek series in his head.
I wonder which species caused the fall, in the Trek world? Vulcans? Some group focussed on perfection.
Dana - Dec 02, 2005 6:28:08 am PST #5528 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
After Enterprise, I think the Vulcans have suffered enough.
tommyrot - Dec 02, 2005 6:28:22 am PST #5529 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I wonder which species caused the fall, in the Trek world? Vulcans?
Pon Farr got out of hand?
§ ita § - Dec 02, 2005 6:29:27 am PST #5530 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Pon Farr got out of hand?
Actually, it was a very not-out-of-hand thing. Cold, calculated, extensive betrayal.
Maybe if somehow they'd come to trust the Romulans...
Kalshane - Dec 02, 2005 6:43:30 am PST #5531 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
That actually would have been an interesting premise for a Trek show. At least then you wouldn't have had the Enterprise problem of (in addition to sucking most of the time) destroying continuity.
The Romulan idea is a good one, and could lead off from the Reunification plotline from the Next Gen universe. Maybe Reunification finally happens, and the Romulans slowly bring the Vulcans around to a point of view that results in the fall of the Federation.
ETA: I'm wondering why they didn't go that route. I know that a lot of the reason Trek has been lacking in new ideas the last decade is because Paramount wants to do everything through Brannon and Braga, rather than having to pony up the bucks to pay someone else for their ideas. I'm not sure of the exact logistics, but it's one of the reasons there's no possibility of Peter David's New Frontier books being made into a series, because then they'd have to pay him big bucks for creating it, or some such.
DXMachina - Dec 02, 2005 6:51:45 am PST #5532 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Maybe if somehow they'd come to trust the Romulans...
The way they did the Klingons?
§ ita § - Dec 02, 2005 6:52:43 am PST #5533 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The way they did the Klingons?
I'm missing something. I'm not sure where you're going with that.
DXMachina - Dec 02, 2005 8:03:07 am PST #5534 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
The Federation (at least in TNG and DS9) already trusts the Klingons, so you wouldn't even need to get the Romulans involved.